Possible Magnet Motor Research Ideas

[Thaelin]

Hello Thay,


Thanks for your comments.  Are you planning to do that experiment?


Carroll

Yes that is the one. Only difference will be stronger magnets to see how they react to the same exposure. Though they will not be allowed to touch each other. N45 neos tend to break apart when that happens. Once that is done, that will make the decision to progress to the next level of the setup.  I do have 16 8mm ss rods and linear bearings at hand so will use them for this.


thay

[Floor]

@ Thaelin

If its to be a build of an actual "user floor's design" then please understand the magnet configurations are as in the drawings below.
                        The shield magnet is actually two magnets. 

                   Best wishes
                             floor

[Thaelin]

@Floor:
    My setup will be along the lines of the drawing on post #4 and not like #6. If that makes me non-compliant here, please delete.


thay

[Floor]

@Thaelin

It's not like that.
Its not my call.  In CITFTA's topics, its CITFTA's call. I have no authority here except to do CITFTA's bidding. This is what I have offered, for up to 5 users on the MMM-2 builders board. 

In MY OWN TOPICS on the MMM-2 board, I will do my own bidding / moderation.

If it WERE my call...  I would say build CITFTA's build ( post #4 ).  This is CIFTA's topic.  CITFTA has done a great job in his builds, nice presentations too. In short he's rocken it.  He has my gratitude and deserves all the attention to his topic it can get.

notes to Thaelin / CITFTA

1. Maintaining good pecision of alignments become MUCH more difficult when the forces are as great as those which can be exerted by Neo magnets.   There are powerful lateral forces against the sliding systems (Luke's force).

2. The degree of precision of alignment needed increases, if magnets of small physical dimensions are used.  Example ...  0.005 of  1/2 inch is only about 1/4 of  0.005 of  1 7/8 inches.

3. The magnetic attraction possible between a given two magnets is typically greater than, is the repulsion between those same two magnets.  A near to balancing of  repelling force and attracting force of the two outer magnets,  each to the inner (shielding / shunting / force redirecting) magnet ( straight line 180 degree opposite vector),  is why the outer magnets can easily approach one another while the inner magnet is in place.  In CITFTA's build (post #4), the force neutralization is entirely dependent upon the rack and pinion, to create that near to balancing of attraction and repulsion.  That "near to balancing" is increased in the other design ( post #6 ).

4.  The ease of insertion and removal of the inner / force redirecting magnet, is also due to the creation of a near balance of attracting and repelling forces upon it (in the direction of its travel).  That "near to balancing is increased in the other design ( post #6 ).

5. The design in post # 6 is improved when it has a rack and pinion linkage of the outer magnets.

I'm not rooting for a build by you of the design in post #6. Though I hope to see one eventually.  I'm simply describing aspects of the functioning of these designs.

             Cool ?

   respectfully
          floor

[Floor]

@Thaelin

     PS
        You also have my graditude
            best wishes
                   floor