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"Magnet shear to direct pull work ratio"

Started by Floor, July 16, 2020, 08:59:39 AM

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Floor

I'm set up for the next measurement set, but not today.


           floor

Floor

Finished it out any way.

No calculations done.

Interaction as in above jpg

7/8 x 7/8 inch by 3/8 inch thick.
Magnetic poles are on the broad faces.
The polar faces of the two magnets, begin as facing and aligned one in front of the other.
There is a 3 /32 inch gap between the two polar faces of the magnets.

The magnets are pulled directly apart by adding force in 15 to 20 gram increments.

Each degree is equal to 0.27930 of a mm travel on the sliding magnet.

1.   385 g    --- 0 deg balanced
2.   370 g    --- 2 deg
3.   345 g    --- 2.5 deg
4.   325 g    --- 3 deg
5.   305 g    --- 6 deg
6.   285 g    --- 7.25 deg
7.   265 g    --- 8.25 deg
8.   245 g    --- 9.75 deg
9.   225 g    --- 12.5 deg
10. 205 g    --- 14.5 deg
11. 185 g    --- 17.5 deg
12. 165 g    --- 19.25 deg
13. 145 g    --- 23.25 deg
14.  125 g    --- 27.5 deg
15.  105 g    --- 32.5 deg
16.  85 g      --- 38 deg
17.  65 g      --- 47 deg
18.  45 g      --- 62 deg
19.  25 g      --- 80 deg
20.  15 g      --- 95 deg

Floor

7/8 x 7/8 inch by 3/8 inch thick.
Magnetic poles are on the broad faces.
The polar faces of the two magnets, begin as facing and aligned one over the other.
There is a 3 /32 inch gap between the two polar faces of the magnets.
The magnets are slid apart by adding force in10 gram increments.

Each degree is equal to 0.27930 of a mm travel on the sliding magnet.

1.   30 g       --- 3 deg
2.   40 g       --- 4 deg          35 x 1             = 35
3.   50 g       --- 5 deg          45 x 1             = 45   
4.   60 g       --- 7.75 deg     55 x 2.75        = 151.25
5.   70 g       --- 8 deg          65 x 0.25        =  16.25
6.   80 g       --- 9 deg          75 x 1             = 75
7.   90 g       --- 12 deg        85 x 3             =  255
8.   100 g     --- 12 deg        0...................  = 0
9.   110 g     --- 13 deg        100 x 1           = 100
10.  120 g    --- 15.5 deg     65 x 2.5          =  162.5
11.  130 g    --- 17.75 deg   125 x 2.25      =  281.25
12.  140 g    --- 21 deg        135 x 3.25      =  438.75
13.  150 g    --- 23.75 deg   145 x 2.75      =  398.75
14.  160 g    --- 32 deg        155 x 8.25      =  1278.75
15.  170 g    --- 49 deg        165 x 17         =  2805
16.  160 g    ---  49 deg       0...................  = 0
17.  150 g    --- 62.75 deg   160 x 13.75    = 2200
18.  130 g    --- 66 deg        140 x 3.25      = 455
19.  120 g    --- 70 deg        125 x 4           = 500
20.  110 g    --- 73 deg        115 x 3           = 345
21.  100 g    --- 77 deg        105 x 4           = 420
22.  90 g      --- 78.5 deg      95 x 1.5         = 143.5
23.  80 g      --- 81 deg         85 x 2.5         = 212
24.  70 g      --- 82.5 deg      75 x  1.5        = 112.5
25.  60 g      --- 85 deg         65  x 2.5        = 162.5
26.  50 g      --- 87 deg         55 x 2            = 110
27.  40 g      --- 90.5 deg      90  x 3.5        = 315
28.  30 g      --- 93.5 deg      35 x 3            = 105
29.  20 g      --- 95.5 deg      25 x 2            = 50
30.  10 g      --- 100 deg       15 x 4.5         = 67.5
31.    5 g      --- 107 deg       7.5 x 7           = 52.5
                                                                 ---------------------------------------
                                                                    11293   or 11286 with no fractions

.... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
7/8 x 7/8 inch by 3/8 inch thick.
Magnetic poles are on the broad faces.
The polar faces of the two magnets, begin as facing and one in front of the other.
There is a 3 /32 inch gap between the two polar faces of the magnets.

The magnets are pulled directly apart by adding force in 15 to 20 gram increments.

Each degree is equal to 0.27930 of a mm travel on the sliding magnet.

1.   385 g    --- 0 deg balanced
2.   370 g    --- 2 deg                   377.5 x 2          =  755
3.   345 g    --- 2.5 deg                357.5 x 0.5       =  178.75       
4.   325 g    --- 3 deg                   335 x 0.5          =  167.5
5.   305 g    --- 6 deg                   315 x 3             =   945
6.   285 g    --- 7.25 deg              295 x 1.25        =  368.75
7.   265 g    --- 8.25 deg              275 x 1.5          =  412.5
8.   245 g    --- 9.75 deg              255 x 1.5          =  382.5
9.   225 g    --- 12.5 deg              235 x 2.75        =  646.25
10. 205 g    --- 14.5 deg              215 x 2             =  430
11. 185 g    --- 17.5 deg              195 x 3             =  585
12. 165 g    --- 19.25 deg            175 x 1.75        = 306.25
13. 145 g    --- 23.25 deg            155 x 4             = 620
14.  125 g    --- 27.5 deg             135 x 4.25        = 673.75
15.  105 g    --- 32.5 deg             115 x 5             = 575
16.  85 g      --- 38 deg                95 x  5.5           = 522.5     
17.  65 g      --- 47 deg                75 x 9               = 675
18.  45 g      --- 62 deg                55 x 15             = 825
19.  25 g      --- 80 deg                35 x 18             = 630
20.  15 g      --- 95 deg                20 x 15             = 300
                                                                               ----------------
                                                                                9998.75


                                                                              11293
                                                                              - 9998
                                                                               -------
                                                                               1295

Some one might want to check the math.
There are 2 more motions to measure....


Floor

107 degrees worth of travel    and     95 degrees worth of travel...

100 / 107 = 0.9345794392523364485981308411215
0.9345794392523364485981308411215 x 95 = 88.785046728971962616822429906542

95 degrees of travel  is
             88.8 % of the travel of 107 degrees of travel .... .... .... .... ....

100 / 11293 = 0.00885504294695829274771982644116

0.00885504294695829274771982644116  x  9998 = 88.53

                                            9998 is 88.53 % of 11293 .... .... .... .... ....

No O.U. in this layout, doesn't prove that different magnet dimensions
or using neodymium magnets would not come out to O.U..   

But it doesn't look good to me, at this point.

             floor


Floor

Again...
     there are two more actions to measure.

                         This process is not complete.

Note I had previously diagrammed the input and output, backward.

But the work totals / measurements will still tell the differences, either way.

                       THIS DIAGRAM (BELOW) AGAIN, SHOWS THE ACTION BACKWARD