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Momentum Paddle Motor

Started by Lunkster, August 17, 2020, 11:42:31 PM

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Lunkster

Could a motor be built that acts like rowing a boat on a lake.  Only it is paddling momentum?  Since gyro's produce a lot of momentum as they spin and since they will move easily one some directions and very hard in other directions, can a motor be built to take advantage of the gyro in order to create movement without having to interact with forces outside of that motor?  In this way by placing a couple of these motors together, movement like acceleration in space could be achieved?  In the drawing I show several gyro's moving at the same time in order to achieve this paddling motion.  The motor in the drawing would move in one direction. Other assemblies would be needed in order to have a useful system that could be used.  Would this motor just sit and spin itself apart?

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conradelektro

Quote from: Lunkster on August 17, 2020, 11:42:31 PM
Could a motor be built that acts like rowing a boat on a lake.  Only it is paddling momentum?  Since gyro's produce a lot of momentum as they spin and since they will move easily one some directions and very hard in other directions, can a motor be built to take advantage of the gyro in order to create movement without having to interact with forces outside of that motor?  In this way by placing a couple of these motors together, movement like acceleration in space could be achieved?  In the drawing I show several gyro's moving at the same time in order to achieve this paddling motion.  The motor in the drawing would move in one direction. Other assemblies would be needed in order to have a useful system that could be used.  Would this motor just sit and spin itself apart?

If something moves in space one has to throw away mass (eject mass) to alter the speed or the direction of the movement.

Gyroscopes can only change the orientation (relative to its center of mass) of the object moving in space.
(The object can be turned in any direction by three onboard gyroscopes.)

Many people did and do not believe that common knowledge and tried and still try like you to come up with
gyroscope-contraptions to replace the ejection of mass.

Radiation pressure (like the radiation from the sun) can very slightly alter the flight path of an object in space.
But any conceivable radiation source on an object moving through space would be to weak to help very much.

The big problem of moving through space: How much mass can you throw away till you have no more mass left?

Gyroscope contraptions operated on a table can be very misleading. They seem to propel the contraption forward
but this is always done by friction with the table top or by friction in the air.

Greetings, Conrad

sm0ky2

Thank you for the insight Conrad.
However, this is only part of the story:


A gyro also has momentum, which is the source of the anomalies many try to study.


This momentum opposes any applied force. Even that of gravity.
Spinning a gyro along a vertical axis, with enough velocity and/or mass can conpletely counteract its weight. This is due to the force of gravity acting on the gyro.
Following this chain of events, we can counter an accelerating force, thereby changing velocity with less energy. (normally a force of equal magnitude is required)


the exact opposite occurs when a force is applied IN the direction of the existing force.
again, allowing for far greater acceleration than a simple addition of the two forces.


In this manner, gyros can be used to assist the tiny forces of say a 'solar sail'.
This comes as the cost of accelerating the gyro, and many would argue that the converted energies are equivalent.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

conradelektro

Quote from: sm0ky2 on August 20, 2020, 01:22:28 PM
Thank you for the insight Conrad.
However, this is only part of the story:

A gyro also has momentum, which is the source of the anomalies many try to study.

This momentum opposes any applied force. Even that of gravity.
Spinning a gyro along a vertical axis, with enough velocity and/or mass can conpletely counteract its weight. This is due to the force of gravity acting on the gyro.
Following this chain of events, we can counter an accelerating force, thereby changing velocity with less energy. (normally a force of equal magnitude is required)

the exact opposite occurs when a force is applied IN the direction of the existing force.
again, allowing for far greater acceleration than a simple addition of the two forces.

In this manner, gyros can be used to assist the tiny forces of say a 'solar sail'.
This comes as the cost of accelerating the gyro, and many would argue that the converted energies are equivalent.

I was writing about proven concepts and well established facts.

You are writing speculations.

Whatever you believe, we should keep speculations and facts apart.

Believing in something is no proof. Hoping that something is true is also no proof.


It is a great problem in forums like this one that established facts are freely interchanged and mixed with speculations, measuring errors, misunderstandings, lack of education an plain lies.

Greetings, Conrad