Another failed project

[nix85]

so, last year and a month i been working on this generator. it's two rotors each 6 neodymiums, all north inward. stator in the middle is air core square toroid around 30cm diameter with 9cm hole. there is 200m of 1.4mm copper wire, 400 turns overall, tesla bifilar wound. actually there are 6 coils but i later connected them all in series, so 1.

idea was (and still stands) that since the field of the toroid is contained inside and is at 90° to field of the magnets, there should be no lenz. this idea was tried before and lenz was not canceled but they used ferrite cores.

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/7086-generator-with-lenz-less-toroidal-stator

i been waiting for a box for it to test it for 6 months now, yesterday i went to try it roughly just spinning the rotors very close to the toroid without box/mount. i gave it a good initial spin which would correspond to maybe 100rpm and voltage i saw was 0.01V and i knew instantly that my biggest fear came true.

i knew coils are usually at least 230 turns PER COIL and number of coils in series, but i thought all wires are "on surface", it's bifilar wound, and i'll compensate with speed...but f**k. complete failure and lesson learned.

i don't even feel like testing when box comes but i at least got parts to experiment with some other design in the future.

right now i only regret the "wasted time", altho that is relative cause you always learn more.

before this i replicated thomas engel motor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBRDvwrFwVo

it was also a collosal work, multi year project, with lots of money and wrong parts (first box was ~2cm thick aluminum, it was extremely heavy and i did not forsee the eddy current drag on the box back then). then i got the wood box, i think energy was somewhat amplified on the big wheel besides inertia but not much and motor overheated and burned at first trial.

one could easily get desperate and hate god after failed projects like this but isn't free energy another name for failure and there are few that got it just right in the ocean of people like me who still have not.

it's a delicate thing. why all/most replications fail.

i am now thinking solar, but i will keep persuing. i am thinking along lines of kunel, solid state, or normal axial coils and try to cancel lenz with iron and magnets placed in/around the coils.

we'll see

[onepower]

Nix85

one could easily get desperate and hate god after failed projects like this but isn't free energy another name for failure and there are few that got it just right in the ocean of people like me who still have not.

it's a delicate thing. why all/most replications fail.

I know the feeling and I had many failed projects as well but I didn't get desperate and hate HORNY the only one true unicorn god after my failed projects. However I'm not hear to talk about religion, even if HORNY is the only true god but about my failures at free energy. HORNY say's we should keep an open mind about free energy but not her and look to nature, which she created from nothing by the way. But I'm not here to talk about HORNY, so after I failed at free energy I got thinking about nature. How mankind worships imaginary constructs, but not HORNY, like money, power, politics, nationalism and such. However nature is infinite, like HORNY, and beyond mankind because it has had billions of years to evolve, more in HORNY's case.

So many of us have been down this road and thank HORNY were finally beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. It just takes dedication and perseverance and we should always keep an open mind, kind of but not really.

May HORNY bless you all, stay safe, take care, bundle up, pull up your socks, wear a mask but not a real mask that's lame, lol.

[onepower]

Double post

[nix85]

..which she created from nothing

yea, overall energy in the creation is 0.

i did get depressed for few hours yesterday ofc after all the time and money 'wasted' into failed project. but like i said it's all part of learning. sometimes we are impatient cause this life is too short and then we convice ourselves we should've alredy been blessed with things like this, but it doesn't work like that in practice. we must earn things and be ready to receive before they are granted.

i never doubted fe for a moment. magnetic field which is earth's etheric currents is a source of energy, one of. so many ways to do it. i have no doubt if i continue to play with it in any particular direction, be it kunel or lenzless alternator or any, that i will crack it at one point. if any fe was a goal, i would pursue that flywheel thing, that has most succesfull replications. just put a big flywheel on the alternator shaft, spin it to speed with smaller motor and there is your fe. ofc not all get even that right, but many do. but is that elegant, is that how you imagine fe. comparing that to some solid state system like figuera or kunel is like comparing a horse carriage to a mothership.

it's just that it's a delicate thing, needs precision, geometry or timing.

on the other hand, get few solar panels and there is your fe, 3.5x3.5 meters and you can get 2.5kw out of it, that's a lot for not that big surface and prices of panels and inverters are going down.

i got other goals i want to pursue in the field of forbidden science so as far as energy goes i'm looking at the sun right now.

tnx for comforting words and heil the unicorn

[AllanV]

yea, overall energy in the creation is 0.

i did get depressed for few hours yesterday ofc after all the time and money 'wasted' into failed project. but like i said it's all part of learning. sometimes we are impatient cause this life is too short and then we convice ourselves we should've alredy been blessed with things like this, but it doesn't work like that in practice. we must earn things and be ready to receive before they are granted.

i never doubted fe for a moment. magnetic field which is earth's etheric currents is a source of energy, one of. so many ways to do it. i have no doubt if i continue to play with it in any particular direction, be it kunel or lenzless alternator or any, that i will crack it at one point. if any fe was a goal, i would pursue that flywheel thing, that has most succesfull replications. just put a big flywheel on the alternator shaft, spin it to speed with smaller motor and there is your fe. ofc not all get even that right, but many do. but is that elegant, is that how you imagine fe. comparing that to some solid state system like figuera or kunel is like comparing a horse carriage to a mothership.

it's just that it's a delicate thing, needs precision, geometry or timing.

on the other hand, get few solar panels and there is your fe, 3.5x3.5 meters and you can get 2.5kw out of it, that's a lot for not that big surface and prices of panels and inverters are going down.

i got other goals i want to pursue in the field of forbidden science so as far as energy goes i'm looking at the sun right now.

tnx for comforting words and heil the unicorn

Hi,
When experimenting takes place it often is just a case of learning what doesn't work.
Keep it simple and cheap.

I built a Bedini type device and decided it was the interaction of two windings that gave a good effect. A separate two winding inductor was used to fire a pulse back with more current in one winding than the other and the motor sped up as the input voltage on a capacitor increased. First the windings in the coil were used to attract the magnet on the rotor and then the reverse pulse in one winding to repel. It had to be switched off because the voltage was getting to high on a capacitor and the sped was making bad vibration. The current from the power supply was unchanged between two configurations.

The transformer action only sees wire resistance when currents are maximum with no flux in the core.
A transformer is more efficient than an ordinary single stator coil and a magnetic field crossing it.
There is a much smaller magnetic field in a two winding transformer with a load.

80watt 50Hz  240v transformer only has about 0.032watt DC power equivalent in the flux. That is 1/2500th of the power.

The problems occur when AC is used. Voltage needs to be stored and then dumped to make the transition from one side of the sine wave or +ve to -neg. A bit like the Tesla coil spark gap. A triac can be used up to 100 or perhaps 200 pulses per second.
There is always some residual magnetism left and this is where the loss is and voltage is needed.
The sine wave is like positive DC and negative DC.  There is some though and design to make the excursion from one to the other.

All the best,

Allan