Another failed project

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No, lol, i did not find it offensive one bit, it was clearly humorous written, i just wanted to remind of this thread since i recalled these efforts few days back at Holcomb thread. As for "It's never "what we believe" that matters but why and our justification and reasoning." that is how i understood your post originally, and in a worldly sense that is true, but in a deeper and more important sense it is not true for all this so called reality is based on belief. With that said, as i always remind, intelligently seeking fundamental principles is essential and rising to higher energy level within oneself. But altho you make a good point you yourself are lacking so much in these key areas.

As for the caduceus staff that is the secret of secrets, the bucking principle, as i wrote many times already, this is the most fundamental of all principles for time-space itself is created by two bucking sets of vibrations. Medicine has never used caduceus staff in the history, as ChatGPT says

"The confusion between the caduceus and the rod of Asclepius in medical symbolism can be traced back to the early 20th century in the United States. Some medical organizations, such as the U.S. Army Medical Corps, adopted the caduceus as a symbol due to its association with commerce and negotiation, which they perceived as relevant to their work. However, this adoption was not universally accepted, and many other medical institutions and professionals continue to use the rod of Asclepius as the symbol of medicine."

It is the staff of Hermes associated with flight, it was always and always will be a scalar coil, an electromagneto-gravitic device. I used it in my Don Smith replica but i never got overunity there. I could go on about caduceus forever, Wilbert Smith was on instruction of ETs experimenting with it and pumping 4kW in it with no heat, energy was simply "disappearing". He did not get levitation as others did, but that alone is a good example that this coil is a scalar coil. Higher effects are delicate.

I am aware of Dendera "light bulb". As for what he's holding in his hand, you want to see electrometer and "U" shaped tesla coil which arcs, so that is what you see, it can be interpreted in various ways. But rest assured that is neither electrometer nor Tesla coil. That does not mean Egyptians did not have relatively advanced technology, altho it surely got progressively lower from sinking of Atlantis onward. Look at Abydos hieroglyphs, no one intelligent can deny these are helicopter, plane and a yacht, altho official narrative tries to debunk them in most ridiculous way that those are symbols upon symbols accidentally resembling those things. Anyway, Egypt is hardly worthy of mention. Look at vimanas for example. Realize the true grandeur of the "ancients". They may seem ancient to you but to us who are fully aware human civilizations have risen to immense heights and fell back into barbarianism on this planet for more than 70 million years, these events of few thousand years ago can hardly be deemed "ancient". Even Atlantis of 16,000 years ago to 12,000 years ago is but a second ago in the larger scope of things.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/vimana/

I have again spoken of Atlantis recently

https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg578037/#msg578037
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg578123/#msg578123

Some priests in Egypt might have retained the knowledge of Maxin Light and night side forces over the millenia, as did those of other nations, as did Solomon, as it is written in The Kebra Nagast etc.

And similar quotes in One Thousand and One Nights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScSmhtbNl-c

It goes on and on infinitely. Ancient priest-scientists knew the secret of caduceus (male-electric-projective-positive and female-magnetic-receptive-negative around the neutral axis of Maxin where polarities meet).

As for "In fact the caduceus staff you posted is nothing like the symbology depicted thousands of years before our civilization was even an idea" you are wrong there, the picture i posted does depict it like coil winding, that it is flattened does not matter, in fact that is a far more common configuration for scalar coils (i know it from studyng thousands of contactee cases, antigravity belts they wear, those are obviously flat wound etc). And as for "Most often depicted as alternating bands of blue and " you are also wrong there too, most of the ancient depictions depict it as colorless, flattened, look at ancient Caduceus symbols some of these go back 5-6000 years. Most or all of them are in stone, flattened intertwining serpents. They can be either way.

Red blue was used by the ancients to represent the directions. As Hermetic Brotherhood reveals in their book Our story of Atlantis (describing Atlantis as it was 31,000 years ago), quote

"The Chamber of the forty-five was more that of a school of training than a laboratory of occult force. The thickness of the separating masonry was seven feet. In the center it presented a square rising above the roof of the Temple. Within it was a square room with the sides facing each of the points of the compass. Circular windows, one each, pierced the walls of the four sides. The one on the east was red, the one on the west was blue, the south was yellow, and the north, white."

As for The Ankh there are various versions, some of which may be interpreted as having a coil or coils but none of those are clear depictions of coils, there is however one which clearly shows it with a caduceus, attached below, A crux ansata in Codex Glazier, a Coptic manuscript of the New Testament, 4th to 5th century AD, clearly shows The Ankh with scalar coil all across it.

More about The Ankh from George Hunt Williamson in Other Tongues Other Flesh

"Copper is the only metal which occurs native abundantly in large masses and copper is supreme among the common metals in its everlasting qualities. The following are two slightly different forms in which the ancient alchemists of the Middle Ages employed the "ankh", the symbol of enduring life, to designate copper. These alchemists always represented copper by the astrological sign for Venus. this circle with cross attached below was the Egyptian symbol for everlasting or enduring life. The "ankh" or Crux Ansata symbolized life itself, therefore it was a fitting symbol to be used for copper which can be the bridge between time and timelessness! Both the cross and the circle were phallic symbols, for the ancient world venerated the generative powers of Nature as being expressive of the creative attributes of the Deity. The Crux Ansata, by combining the masculine Tau with the feminine oval, exemplified the principles of generation. The generative powers which the "ankh" symbolized were also representative of life, since without these powers no man would be born on Earth."

While Dendera light tube and Bagdad battery may be fun, they're hardly worthy of mention in comparison to Vailx and Vimanas which most fail to recognize as something real just cause there are no material proofs of their existence in the public, but words and symbols speak clearly, for those with eyes to see.

Even at Gobekli Tepe we see pairs of 3 serpents spiraling downward, probably representing the 3une One Force emerging from the Godhead, and chain-like decorations on the sides-top of the column attached below can be interpreted as intertwining serpents aka caduceus. This is almost 12,000 years old.

But most of these people who depicted it did not understand it as a technology. Only the priest-scientists did and it was always most closely guarded secret.

Some more revelations of timeless wisdom from A Dweller

"In some cases such sustenance is sufficient for ages, in others, centuries, years, days, or even minutes, according to the earthward−turning, or the spirit−turning sympathies of the decedent. The astral is only vivified force, bearing the image in all respects of its ego, the I AM. Even prophecies made by returned spirits, prophecies which come true after years, perhaps are but the impressed foresight of the ego at the moment of departure. It for an instant sees into vast future depths of time. And this glimpse is imprinted on its astral−shell. It is psychic form. If the phenomena set in motion by man are of that intensely vital created by Moses, Buddha, Zoroaster, then just as long as a believer of any one of these religious systems adheres, that long, but no longer the shells of these prophets will continue their derived existence. It is psychic force which is their controlling lever, formed force. It is this same force which holds the stars to their orbits, and the atoms to theirs. It is vital, and dual, being positive and negative. To separate the force or fire element of the ancients (ancients to thee, not to me), was to cause the focus for such an Unfed Fire as the Maxin, and in later ages, in Israel the power in the Ark of the Covenant, alike with the Maxin, fatal to life. These focus points are portals whereinto the entire concourse of lesser forces of nature are absorbed upon contact. These foci are also the sole residence of the much sought universal solvent of the alchemists; needless to say that as some of these alchemists have been Sons of the Solitude, that therefore they have had the wonderful solvent to serve them."

And some more on nature of The Force in its positive and negative aspects.

"Continuing, Quong said to me: Have you found the doorway? It is not strange that you should fail, for it was constructed with the special purpose of baffling the curious. Again he touched the enormous quadrangular block. Immediately it tipped on edge and leaned outward over us, causing me to spring away in terror lest it fall on me. Be not afraid, my brother. See, it is under my control as if on hinges; and he swung it back on its lower outer edge with wonderful ease, only keeping his own nearest hand firmly upon it. To my amazed query he replied that it worked to his will through magnetism. But I saw no magnet, and said so. Truth! In me is the magnet you do not see. Did it ever occur to you that the processes of all life are carried on by what for our present purpose may be called magnetism? Assimilation of food and drink, waste, excretion, all vital processes whatever? The magnet is in the cerebellum or back brain, and in the medullary substance of the corporae striatum, a veritable wound magnet. The force which causes the heart to act, the lungs to act, maintains bodily heat, and so on, is enormous; it amounts to many hundreds of thousands of foot pounds per day. He that knows occult law can make nature parallel this magnet, for the universe itself moves only because of the current, which flows from positive to negative, from one−half of matter into the other half, continuously. Here, now, is an occult secret: make a place of separation in this, the Fire of Life, and where the poles come in contact there shall force be in action. This block of stone, the door, is an armature in a natural field of force. Here on the ground. is another. Putting the door−stone back in place, Quong drew a circle on the ground about a foot across. Then in this circle a couple of lines in a simple cross, one north and south, the, other east and west. As the four ends of the cross were contacted with the circle, a tall, steady flame sprang up, its spear−shaped cone trembling within itself, but being wholly uninfluenced by the wind, which had some time before commenced blowing in vigorous gusts. Then sad the Tchin: Behold the Vis Mortuus. Of all mankind only an occult student could bring it forth; only such a one could put it out, unless by accident. Touch it not; 'twould be fatal, on the principle that the greater contains all lesser forces, and it would instantly absorb the force of life, or of wind or wave, or projectile; it exists visibly here because on a thaumaturgic symbol. You think that symbol might as well be of any other form? So think those who comprehend not. See that moth darting about the flame of the light; it will enter, but not be burnt; no, quicker see! it touches, and disappears, and leaves no sign yet the light is not hot, no, not even warm. I will put it out. Suiting his action to the word, he drew a stick through beneath the dust on which the circle was described, and the light in that instant was gone. Then another circle made he, drew but one line across it, north and south, then stepped into the figure, one of his feet on each semi−circle. Immediately his whole person was covered with a brilliant flame, so that he appeared on fire. I was exceedingly terrified. Do not fear for me! It is well with me. The other flame was negative odicity, and would have instantly been fatal to whatever motion touched it and have disintegrated its form; yea, a rock thrown into it would at once have disintegrated, or a cannon ball discharged from the muzzle of the piece would have fared the same. But this is a positive flaming of the Vis Naturae, and preserves life. I might stand here till the centuries mounted and be not weary, nor hungry, nor sick, cat not, nor drink, yet live; for this keeps all things untouched by time, as when they enter it. No difference in symbolic figures, think you now? Indeed, yes. But my soul will not progress; so that case of living though its use offers, I care not to employ its aid, except that when weary it gives me rest; ill, it restores health. He broke the circle with his foot, and coming away, swung back the door−stone again and stepped within the tunnel disclosed behind it. I followed, the door was replaced, and I found that the passage led into the mountain. I was still thinking of the biblical legend of the rolling away of the stone from the mouth of the sepulcher of Jesus the Christ, and paralleling it with this act of the Tchin, aware now that neither were miracles, but manifestations of higher natural law."

"After this decision I was required to take vows of secrecy, whereby I was bound not to reveal any part of what I should learn in any manner which might give the hearer of my words practical use of what I told him. I might drop a hint which might be followed as a clue to the Voiceless Silence where blooms the Flower of Life; but, beyond a hint, my friend, I can tell you nothing. Of hints I have given many. Nor, were I to disregard my word, and divulge secrets of immediate working value, would you thank me. No, rather would you curse me. Why? Suppose we wit an instance: Suppose I were to reveal the secret of the Vis Mortuus, would you thank me? It is, remember, that force which may be projected in all its fatal strength to any distance and which is personified in the famous poem, The Destruction of Sennacherib, in the line: The Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast. - Suppose I revealed that secret? How long would it be ere the world would find that the unscrupulous amongst men were using it to work undetectable murder? And its uses are many besides, for it is the principle in nature which governs transmutation, disintegration, decay, destruction, death. All these, but never does it build anew; it is Siva, the Destroyer. Used aright, it is a beneficent force, for without it there would be no progress in nature, because no change could occurthere could not even be retrogression, but utter stagnation. Its sign is Much as that means to me, it can be but a hint to you. Study it if you will, and one day it shall be revealed to you. In reason you can no longer ask why occult matters are so imperatively secret, for it must be evident that this fair earth would be made by the unscrupulous into a very hell of misery and crime, 139 were they not thus secret. For a time those who chose to subvert their knowledge would seem to thrive and prosper, even though the world about them suffered. But subversion of the law is violation, and the penalty at last visited is in tenfold degree upon those who we nt most astray in their blindness and sin. It would cause them to curse the giver of such wisdom. Nine−tenths of the people of this world are unable to govern themselves well; they cannot in saneness expect to be made sharers of such awful knowledge as Siva represents. Men and wo men are really not following the Christ until every part of their own nature is held in an iron grasp of merciless subjection to high principles. But study, my friends, study. Christianize the money power of this world, so that capital shall not work harm to men but good, and from good thus born the karma of the world will lead to the goodness of heart which gives calmness of soul; in that calmness your study will bear fruit, and then it will not be a mockery, in seeming, of your hopes for me to say Study! I rejoice in those earnest workers whose motto is: Look up, not down; look out, not in; look forward, and not back, and lend a hand. Only this: the occult student gazes in, and not out! But these are not esoterists. Their name shall one day be great in the world, and though you who desire to study and know occult truths now may not see your hopes fruit in your present incarnation, yet in coming lives you will grasp these truths which elude you at present. Follow Him."

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Speaking of Atlantis and preflood world for which A Dweller on Two Planets is a must read

https://www.mediafire.com/file/p4qc95220yu491o/ATLANTIS.rar/file

There are 100% conventional things about those times that are interesting to say the least

For example La Marche cave in Lussac, France discovered in 1937. has 155 vivid human portraits around 15,000 years old many of which show people wearing modern clothes, hats, purses, belts, boots etc.

http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/francelamarche.htm

Paintings in the Chauvet Cave discovered in 1994, also in France are oldest cave paintings on record (some of them 32,000 years old). They look as if modern artist did them.

http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/francechauvet.htm

Not to mention the bullet skulls, especially the Rhodesian and Auroch skull.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/prehistoric-skulls-001979

And again not so official history, but even more important.

Book of a real contactee that perfectly aligns with another totally unrelated contactee case of Mission Rahma, both say clearly that androgynous hybrid was created by colonizers from space about 70 million years ago, below is a sketch of an early human prior to hybridizations, Martin describes two races of semi-civilized early humans who lived here before hybridization, one black who lived near the sea, had huts, showers, clothes, cooked, etc. and traded with light brown forest dwellers who were nomads and not had nothing but probably basic weapons.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ped7unhu56ahulo/284012683-Wendelle-Stevens-Ufo-Contact-From-Planet-Arian-of-Alderbaron.pdf/file

So man walked with dinosaurs. Strange as it may sound to some, history is very different than most would even dare to imagine.

Forbidden Archeology by Michael A Cremo and Richard L Thompson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYPdb50UVQ

One of the forbidden archaeological cases that Cremo mentions in the lecture above and in the book you can download here is the Macoupin County skeleton.

From The Geologist, December 1862.

"In Macoupin County, Illinois, the bones of a man were recently found on a coal-bed capped with two feet of slate rock, ninety feet below the surface of the earth. . . The bones, when found, were covered with a crust or coating of hard glossy matter, as black as coal itself, but when scraped away left the bones white and natural."

As he writes in the book on page 563, Cremo asked a geologist in 1985 about the age of the vitreous coal under which the skeleton of an anatomically modern man was found and a certain Mr. C. Brian Trask of the Illinois Geological Society told him that it was probably late Desmoinesian age from which it is clear that the age of this skeleton is 286 to 320 million years.

As Cremo says, since the skeleton was found UNDER that sheet of glassy petrified coal, there is no possibility that the skeleton buried a few thousand years ago could have sunk deeper or something.

https://youtu.be/NpYPdb50UVQ?t=3260

Then Meister Print

In 1968, William Meister searched for trilobite fossils in the 500-million-year-old strata known as the Cambrian Wheeler Formation near Antelope Springs, Utah. He discovered what appeared to be a human shoe print with a trilobite under the heel after breaking the slab. When Meister discovered the fossil, its authenticity was confirmed by Dr. Hellmut Doelling of the Geological Survey of Utah.

The official and of course funny, false story is that these are not trilobites but "spalling", i.e. natural cracking of the stone. Since most cannot accept the simple truth as it is, they think that even though they are trilobites, the shape of the shoe must be an accidental natural formation. That's how it goes, always.

https://amyth.com/meister-print-fact-fiction/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEgANdXIcUU

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And Lascaux Cave, also France, 17,300 years old, also sophisticated art.

http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/francelascaux.htm

And Dorchester Pot. In 1852, in Dorchester, Massachusetts, after they blew up a rock about 600 million years old, in the remains of the rock they found a metal vase in two parts, the material was zinc with some silver, it had flower motifs drawn in silver. Skeptics dismiss the whole thing only because it is inconceivable and impossible for them, so they are "sure" that it is a modern vase, and how it ended up inside a 600 million year old stone - there is no answer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorchester_Pot

As Michael Cremo said, they buried more back (or hid in Smithsonian basements) than they showed to the public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWnb8NCI-eI

Cayce says Great Congress of world rulers was held in 50,722 BC to deal with the issue of "Invasion of the Great Beasts that overran the Earth" which they cleaned with death rays.

Whole history is practically 100% a lie.

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Just seeing these portraits 15,000 years old is strange, when you wonder who were these people, what their world looked like. These were contemporaries of Atlantis! And so much more.

If they had modern clothing 15,000 years ago, bullets, then question is what else did they have or rather easier, what did they not have.

Fact is, and this will be proven in few years, there were almost always vastly different degrees of civilizations coexisting on the planet, just like today we have western highly technological civilization and at the same time remote tribes literally still living in stone age.

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before this i replicated thomas engel motor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBRDvwrFwVo

I just found photos from 2017. of that failed Thomas Engel replica, so here they are.

There are no photos of it fully assembled. It also had a giant zinc pulley which was supposed
to turn an alternator. But when i tested it all i got was whole house shaking from vibrations
but i noticed no torque or power amplification at the big wheel except the inertia of the heavy
magnet wheel which was 3cm thick aluminum + 6 1.2kg stacked ferrite rings.