Earth Question

[lancaIV]

I think that geologists have their answer !
By Wegener his "Pangaea"- hypothesis they did/ are searching worldwide by continental puzzling for findings of mineral deposits !
What we actually are seeing is not "historical reality" ,going the time-line 10.000 years back and calculating the ice-time-shelf density :
the coastal water-line up to 120 meters deeper than today ,important for archaeology

                                                          Im-/possibilities

Can a human body survive,without injuries,a free fall from 25000 feets without parachute  ? Condition ?

Luke Aikins can give experienced answer !

[Paul-R]

Flat Earthers only do this to cause trouble and raise the angers. If they were ever to take a jet flight other than commercial, then the obvious would be. Take the live picture of the famous Red Bull Jump. 85K feet and you could seriously see the curves of the Earth there. No questions at all. Any military pilot will confirm. Just butt heads having fun causing troubles.


thay

Yes, Thay. a flight in a U2 would do it. James May of BBC's "Top Gear" has a documentary of it.


I have a theory. These two people reckon FE is a load of crap and so are those working on it. One or both of them have taken out a wager, possibly with a journo, that we, who believe in the possibliity of FE, are such a load of tossers that we could be talked into believing the earth is flat.

I reckon a grand is at stake.

[citfta]

Hello Carrol,

I'll point out that it seems you have not addressed this post to anyone specifically - but it feels like you expect my response.

You and I have only once perhaps twice that I recall ever had any contact and if I recall correctly that concerned your kind words about others attacking me, and picture sizing advice you offered, to which I most likely thanked you for.
Please do correct me if you feel I am wrong on any of the above.

Through the years I have read things you've written that made me think there might be things you and myself had/have in common that would be of benefit to us both, perhaps even to others. This post today makes me wonder, but also warranted a reply.

I ask is this the question(s) in question?

Michael

Hello Michael,


My post was directed towards anyone that believes the earth is flat.  Thanks for your reply.  And I believe you are correct about any past posts between us.


Here again are the questions I am wondering about.  What benefit is there in believing the earth is flat?  Or in believing it is a sphere?  As long as we can navigate and get where we want to go does it really matter which is correct?


And my other questions I recently posted are these:  How do flat earth believers explain the changing of the seasons?  And how do they explain that if you are north of the Arctic Circle in the summer months you can actually watch the sun go completely around you in 24 hours and never go below the horizon.  I have been there and seen that.  And conversely in the winter months the sun never comes above the horizon if you are north of the Arctic Circle.  I don't see how that is possible if the earth was flat.


Respectfully,
Carroll

[onepower]

Paul-R

I have a theory. These two people reckon FE is a load of crap and so are those working on it. One or both of them have taken out a wager, possibly with a journo, that we, who believe in the possibliity of FE, are such a load of tossers that we could be talked into believing the earth is flat.

Here is a good article...https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/psych-unseen/201702/flat-earthers-belief-skepticism-and-denialism

Just so, Flat Earthers often talk about planetary geometry in terms of "belief in" rather than "belief that," as if the evidence for a spherical Earth is lacking. But that claim isn't really so much about believing. It's denialism.

Better put...

With those words, Irving seems to be defending a denialist position that has the potential to give way to a slippery slope of rejecting all facts. According to that extreme version of denialism, nothing can be trusted, not even scientific evidence.

Now ask yourself what group of people have the most to gain from denialism implying all facts including scientific facts cannot be trusted?.
The answer...

"Today, we have multiple factions putting themselves forward as what Gauchat describes as their own cultural domains, "generating their own knowledge base that is often in conflict with the cultural authority of the scientific community." Some are religious groups (challenging evolution, for instance). Some are industry groups (as with climate skepticism). Others tilt more to the left (such as those that reject the medical establishment). As varied as these groups are, they are all alike in one way. They all harbor sacred beliefs that they do not consider open to question.

Now we know who they are and what they actually want and it has nothing to do with a flat earth.

Regards

[Johan_1955]

It can be ......

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88104main_H-1391.pdf