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Earth Question

Started by Johan_1955, September 22, 2020, 04:47:37 AM

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Temporal Visitor

Foucault Pendulum Flat Earth vs.  Heliocentrism

"In the mid 19th century a Frenchman named Léon Foucault became famous for swinging pendulums and claiming their consequent motions were proof of the Earth's diurnal rotation. Since then "Foucault Pendulums" have regularly been swinging at museums and exposition halls worldwide purporting to provide everlasting perpetual proof of the heliocentric spinning ball-Earth theory. The truth is, however, unbeknownst to most of the duped public, that Foucault's pendulum is a failed experiment which proves nothing but how easy it is for pseudo-science to deceive the malleable masses.  To begin with, Foucault's pendulums do not uniformly swing in any one direction. Sometimes they rotate clockwise and sometimes counter-clockwise, sometimes they fail to rotate and sometimes they rotate far too much. Scientists who have repeated variations of the experiment have conceded time and again that "it was difficult to avoid giving the pendulum some slight lateral bias at starting." The behavior of the pendulum actually depends on 1) the initial force beginning its swing and, 2) the ball-and-socket joint used which most-readily facilitates circular motion over any other. The supposed rotation of the Earth is completely inconsequential and irrelevant to the pendulum's swing. If the alleged constant rotation of the Earth affected pendulums in any way, then there should be no need to manually start pendulums in motion! If the Earth's diurnal rotation caused the 360 degree uniform diurnal rotation of pendulums, then there should not exist a stationary pendulum anywhere on Earth!"-- Eric Dubay

"This pendulum, modern scientists tell us, affords a visible proof that we are living on a whirling globe, which, according to a 'work on science' now before me, is spinning upon its so-called axis at the rate of over 1,000 miles an hour at the equator; and, in addition to other motions, is rushing on an everlasting tour round the sun (the diameter of which is said to be 813,000 miles, and its weight 354,936 times greater than the earth from which it is said to be about 93,000,000 miles distant,) at the rate of over 1,000 miles per minute. Now to prove that the earth really has these motions a pendulum is suspended at the show; the showman sets motion, and bids the gaping world of thoughtless men and women to 'behold a proof' that we are living on a whirling globe which is rushing away through space!" -Lady Blount, "The Romance of Science" (7)

"Astronomers have made experiments with pendulums which have been suspended from the interior of high buildings, and have exulted over the idea of being able to prove the rotation of the Earth on its 'axis,' by the varying direction taken by the pendulum over a prepared table underneath - asserting that the table moved round under the pendulum, instead of the pendulum shifting and oscillating in different directions over the table! But, since it has been found that, as often as not, the pendulum went round the wrong way for the 'rotation' theory, chagrin has taken the place of exultation, and we have a proof of the failure of astronomers in their efforts to substantiate their theory." -William Carpenter, "100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe" (73)

"First, when a pendulum, constructed according to the plan of M. Foucault, is allowed to vibrate, its plane of vibration is often variable - not always. The variation when it does occur, is not uniform - is not always the same in the same place; nor always the same either in its rate or velocity, or in its direction. It cannot therefore be taken as evidence; for that which is inconstant cannot be used in favor of or against any given proposition. It therefore is not evidence and proves nothing! Secondly, if the plane of vibration is observed to change, where is the connection between such change and the supposed motion of the Earth? What principle of reasoning guides the experimenter to the conclusion that it is the Earth which moves underneath the pendulum, and not the pendulum which moves over the Earth? What logical right or necessity forces one conclusion in preference to the other? Thirdly, why was not the peculiar arrangement of the point of suspension of the pendulum specially considered, in regard to its possible influence upon the plane of oscillation? Was it not known, or was it overlooked, or was it, in the climax of theoretical revelry, ignored that a 'ball-and-socket' joint is one which facilitates circular motion more readily than any other?" -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, "Earth Not a Globe, 2nd Edition" (153)

"We believe, with all due deference to the pendulum, and its proprietor, that it proves nothing but the craftiness of the inventor; and we can only describe the show and showman as deceptions. A thing so childish as this 'pendulum proof' that it can only be described as one of the most simple and ridiculous attempts to gull the public that has ever been conceived. It has been said that the pendulum experiment proves the rotation of the earth, but this is quite impossible, for one pendulum turns one way; and sometimes, another pendulum turns in the opposite direction. Now we ask does the earth rotate in opposite directions at different places at one and the same time? We should like to know. Perhaps the experimenters will kindly enlighten us on this point ... If the earth had the terrible motions attributed to it, there would be some sensible effects of such motions. But we neither feel the motion, see it, nor hear it. And how people can stand watching the pendulum vibrate, and think that they are seeing a proof of the motions of the earth, almost passes comprehension. They are, however, brought up to believe it, and it is thought to be 'scientific' to believe what the astronomers teach."
-Lady Blount, "The Romance of Science" (8-10)

All the above is "hearsay", as is all of yours.

My evidence requires few words. See below


Floor


Your "trust your instruments" jpg is not evidence at all, and it is a frivolous response.
Its just a jpg, with no explanation. 

What do you think its supposed to evidence ?



Floor

Quote from: Temporal Visitor on November 07, 2020, 09:58:05 PM
Foucault Pendulum Flat Earth vs.  Heliocentrism

"In the mid 19th century a Frenchman named Léon Foucault became famous for swinging pendulums and claiming their consequent motions were proof of the Earth's diurnal rotation. Since then "Foucault Pendulums" have regularly been swinging at museums and exposition halls worldwide purporting to provide everlasting perpetual proof of the heliocentric spinning ball-Earth theory. The truth is, however, unbeknownst to most of the duped public, that Foucault's pendulum is a failed experiment which proves nothing but how easy it is for pseudo-science to deceive the malleable masses.  To begin with, Foucault's pendulums do not uniformly swing in any one direction. Sometimes they rotate clockwise and sometimes counter-clockwise, sometimes they fail to rotate and sometimes they rotate far too much. Scientists who have repeated variations of the experiment have conceded time and again that "it was difficult to avoid giving the pendulum some slight lateral bias at starting." The behavior of the pendulum actually depends on 1) the initial force beginning its swing and, 2) the ball-and-socket joint used which most-readily facilitates circular motion over any other. The supposed rotation of the Earth is completely inconsequential and irrelevant to the pendulum's swing. If the alleged constant rotation of the Earth affected pendulums in any way, then there should be no need to manually start pendulums in motion! If the Earth's diurnal rotation caused the 360 degree uniform diurnal rotation of pendulums, then there should not exist a stationary pendulum anywhere on Earth!"-- Eric Dubay

Jesus rocks !
   but
Some of his "friends" are real creeps.

Eric Dibay's agenda, money money money ?
   
https://ericdubay.wordpress.com/2018/07/08/dinosaurs-never-existed/

      wow what B.S.
Jesus help us.

Paul-R



The top instrument is an Artificial Horizon.It tells the pilot the attitude of his a/c compared to the ground beneath him.

The bottom instrument is a compass.It tells the pilot the heading of the a/c compared to Earth's Magnetic NS.


For God's sake, temporal visitor - get a "Mr Men book of science" or a "Complete Idiots Guide to Science" before bothering us more with your drivel.


Temporal Visitor

Quote from: Paul-R on November 08, 2020, 07:37:30 AM

The top instrument is an Artificial Horizon.It tells the pilot the attitude of his a/c compared to the ground beneath him.

Very good to see you remain unable/unwilling to answer my original questions about "water & level" (LOL) and now decide to move along, perhaps to obfuscate that fact.
Care to comment now since before you first ran off the battlefield?

Yes Paul-R hero it does provide the pilot with an artificial horizon, however technically it is an "AI" - Attitude Indicator.
You do know what device is used inside to make them work, or don't you?
You do know what that device shows in "space", or don't you? (Think back to "SkyLab")
You do know what that same device shows on a bench on Earth. or don't you?
You do know what both these instruments have in common, or don't you?

Quote from: Paul-R on November 08, 2020, 07:37:30 AM
The bottom instrument is a compass.It tells the pilot the heading of the a/c compared to Earth's Magnetic NS.
No Paul-R hero, it is not merely "a compass", and it functions without any dependence on magnetism whatsoever, including any imagined "flux lines" in your mind. It is a rather special kind of compass, far superior to that $5.00 pocket compass you suggested I buy which I told you as a pilot I wouldn't use at the "South pole".

You do know the correct name for this instrument, or don't you?
You do know what device is used inside to make them work, or don't you?
You do know what that device shows in "space", or don't you? (Think back to "SkyLab")
You do know what that same device shows on a bench on Earth. or don't you?
You do know what both these instruments have in common, or don't you?

Quote from: Paul-R on November 08, 2020, 07:37:30 AM
For God's sake, temporal visitor - get a "Mr Men book of science" or a "Complete Idiots Guide to Science" before bothering us more with your drivel.

Such kind words: Thanks but NO THANKS, the last thing I need in my Temporal life is to turn away from Truth of my God, the Most High, only to waste the gifts and blessings I've already been given, and ultimately wind up just as ignorant as you worshiping "science" while you are blindly looking for "energy" not even truly knowing what "Energy is ____  ____."

None of this matters, I'm comfortable with what I have, and leaving you as ignorant and insulting as I found you, as it is commanded: https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Corinthians-14-38/

With all due respect,
Go in Peace,  if you are bothered by me: TOO BAD.