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AC voltage from single magnetic pole

Started by nix85, October 04, 2020, 10:16:36 PM

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nix85

QuoteThis means that you are not allowed to have any knowledge of electric signals in the primary, e.g. you are not allowed to place any electric probes in the primary circuit.

How so, you are feeding the primary AC, you know the signal you feed it.

verpies

Quote from: nix85 on October 09, 2020, 08:05:55 PM
How so, you are feeding the primary AC, you know the signal you feed it.
If you acquire the knowledge inadvertently, then you musn't use it in your calculations or conceptual analysis.

nix85

Quote from: verpies on October 09, 2020, 08:03:19 PM
This is correct but only when that current is a consequence of applying an external voltage to that inductor.
We are not talking about that scenario.

What you claim sounds unrealistic, so i'll be happy to find out what is the truth.

nix85

Quote from: verpies on October 09, 2020, 08:09:27 PM
If you acquire the knowledge inadvertently, then you musn't use it in your calculations or conceptual analysis.

What. If you are feeding AC to the primary you know exactly what you are feeding it.


verpies

Quote from: nix85 on October 09, 2020, 08:13:46 PM
What. If you are feeding AC to the primary you know exactly what you are feeding it.

It is called an abstraction.  In this case an abstraction of the primary winding as a varying flux source only.


This means, that if you inadvertently acquire the knowledge of the AC voltage or amplitude or frequency or phase in the primary circuit then you mustn't use it in your calculations or conceptual analysis.  ...or use a secretive lab assistant that will set random amplitude, frequency and phase of the signal generator which supplies the primary winding with electric energy  ;) .

However, you can probe and use the knowledge about all electric signals occurring in the secondary circuit.