Lords of the Ring

[weri812]

@ Jason O

did you made your ring using 5" end caps  with top cut off?

wer

[weri812]

hi gk

great work   but now is not the time to go holey
i and others understand what you say  but  we as the human race need this
techknoledge.   i for one will take precaution when  building this thing.
is the first tpu from page one and  post 2 still good to work with  or do we
need to use your new tpu?

thanks
wer

[Jdo300]

@ Jason O

did you made your ring using 5" end caps  with top cut off?

wer

Hi Wer,

No, the core is simply a 5" PVC cuplink, the kind you use the connect pipes together end to end. I simply took a cuplink and cut it in half, then I cut the slots in it for the coils to go in.

God Bless,
Jason O

[giantkiller]

hi gk

great work   but now is not the time to go holey
i and others understand what you say  but  we as the human race need this
techknoledge.   i for one will take precaution when  building this thing.
is the first tpu from page one and  post 2 still good to work with  or do we
need to use your new tpu?

thanks
wer

The bucking coil 390721 only rocks back and forth pulling the compass needle up or pushing it down. It does not rotate the compass. Although it is very dangerous! This new coil follows some previously stated options. That is 3 segments fired in sequence. With the config one can use 1 freq or 3 freqs 1 to each segment. The 30awg controllers do produce results anyway and are easily driven. The helmholtzs can be powered by DC or pulsed in attraction or opposition. Why all the options? Because the different aspects of this coil have shown proofs in previous experiments by a number of us. And my favorite option is: total configurability within the overall mechanical design.
The GK4 was a mix of my choices and Ottos jumpers. Pretty simple and a stroke of luck with all the choices that could have been made at the time. It all fell into place at the right time. Isn't that how treasures are found?
At this time I do not have a 3 phase control driver. I am making one. I am working between a 3 fet one and 3 555s like Marco posted. My previous one is a quad. I am leaning towards the 555s right now. I will worry about testing the silicon in the middle scenario later for the feedback part. And something really amazing is with all the noise and power that the GK4 emits I have yet to spin a compass. LOL.

Take an important note of Ottos 3 ring connections on post 1:2. All the frequencies end up on the same connection point for phase cancellation. This stops the pulse before it hits the end of the wire.

That is my current quest. Hope it helps and answers your questions.

--giantkiller. Just re-emphasizing safety. Thats all. There have been 3 accidents so far. Not bad but not good either.

[Jdo300]

Hello All,

Just thought I would drop some more food for thought. Here's the King's Electrons story that Lindsay Mannix posted a looong time ago. Check it out again, and then read my comments and the link I posted. There are several tidbits here which may aid in our understanding of the TPU conversion process:

Once upon a time in a microsecond far away in a land under the noses of all, there were some electrons which were sent on a trip around the world by their king. Their destination was a place near their home (the other end of a coil loop) but they were sent the longest way possible. Their king told them that it was so that they could meet as many friends as possible on the way. They were told that if they were lucky enough to meet some friends they could have a big party and celebrate with them and invite a few back for a visit. So their king gave them a big kick to send them on their way and arranged to meet them back where they started. He showed them the other end of the wire just behind them. "See you at the arranged time, back here" he said and off they went!

Some short time later the king sent some more groups of his favourite electrons on a similar journey down another wire. He did this a few times. After a while he lost track of how many he had sent and was worried that they all might arrive back at his castle together and crash into each other. The king was worried about this so he disconnected the return wires before any of them arrived home. He wondered whether they might get lost but was more worried about them colliding with each other in his castle on their return home. "Oh dear!.. What Have I done?" he said.

Meanwhile the electrons were still on their merry way twisting and turning, round and round when they noticed that their end connection was somehow gone. What had happened? They also saw some other electrons nearby that they recognized and so they met up and had a party. What a big party it was. They all met and danced and sang and in the process many more electrons joined in the party, even ones that were not sent by the king. This created a few fights and some confusion but all the other electrons from all around heard about the party and sent messages to all their friends. Obviously the place was not big enough, but as it happened, just nearby there was a wonderful piece of wire which seemed to have an even better way home and it was a bigger wire with much more room. They told their friends and almost the whole party jumped over to the other piece of wire so that they might get home the short way. The uninvited guests were really getting out of hand at this point so it really was a case of either jump or be pushed, so they jumped. The only trouble was that all the uninvited guests followed them and their friends and their friends as well, and they just kept on coming. Nobody told any one that the party was over and not to come. When all the king?s electrons came rushing home thru the other big wire that was not for his travelers, the king was relieved that they had taken the shortcut, but when he saw all the other uninvited guests, he realized that disconnecting the main return wire was a bad mistake. He grabbed a few of them and put them to work. He was able to send some of the others back down the original wire in the hope that they would find another king to annoy, but there were too many of them so he quickly found another big wire that led somewhere else and joined them together. He managed to get most of the uninvited guests to go down that one, away from his kingdom. He told them to tell the others that the party was over but they were having such fun, weaving and winding, jumping and pushing.  It did not take long for the king to have so many electrons passing by that he had no way of dealing with them, so he would sometimes go down to the big wire and watch all the free loaders whiz by. He would tell some of them that the party was over but they just kept whizzing by faster and faster.  He even sent some of them down the big weavy wire to let the others know that the party was over, but it didn't work. He gave up after a while and left them to it and went off somewhere else hoping that nobody would notice. I?m told that he went to a power generator where none of this silliness could happen to him again and all the electrons had things to stop them from being so silly.

First, I would like to draw your attention to this specific part here:

"After a while he lost track of how many he had sent and was worried that they all might arrive back at his castle together and crash into each other. The king was worried about this so he disconnected the return wires before any of them arrived home."

A while ago, we were having a discussion about how to stop the current flow in the wires when we pulse the control coils. Well here is one approach. One end of the control coil can be connected to the pulse circuit (which would connect the coil to the + of the battery), and the other end can connect to the collector, (which ultimately is connected to the negative side of the battery since we are running DC through it. When the pulse circuit energizes the control coil, we must remember that the electrons will come from the negative side of the battery to the positive side, which means that the electron flow starts at the collector coil and heads around and around the control coil to the positive side. So if we use an extremely short pulse on the wire, we can conceivably cut off the positive to the wire before the electron current reaches the end of the coil (hence lots of wire for the control coils). When the switching circuit is off, it is essentially like disconnecting the wire physically, which will create an RE event on the wire and charge the collector.

There is something else that you should know as well. Something else happens when we create a 'kick' on the wire. Remember that Mr. Mark emphasized the importance of understanding this simple concept:

"WE are not talking about a coil or a transformer or anything developing a primary to secondary flux. We are just talking about a straight piece of wire, some electrons and a method of measuring what comes out of it."

So any notions of standard induction must go out the window (I think we all realize this though).

So the question I ask is what really is happening with this piece of wire when we first start the current flow through it?

Here's a hint from Steven:

?When I accidentally stumbled on a device that appeared to actually pull electrons from the sky, it  was the ONLY working model for many months.?

Pulling electrons from the sky? Hmmm.... For those of you who haven't seen Sauron's latest post about what happens during a nuclear explosion, check out this post in Bruce's thread here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg31744.html#msg31744

In particular, focus your attention on this part:

The formation EMP begins with the very intense, but very short burst of gamma rays caused by the nuclear reactions in the bomb. About 0.3% of the bomb's energy is in this pulse, but it last for only 10 nanoseconds or so. These gamma rays collide with electrons in air molecules, and eject the electrons at high energies through a process called Compton scattering. These energetic electrons in turn knock other electrons loose, and create a cascade effect that produces some 30,000 electrons for every original gamma ray.

Electron Cascade Effect

Check this doc out specifically about the effect, it is the same thing that makes ionic air filters work:

http://website.lineone.net/~aarekhu/electroncasc.htm

One interesting thing to note from this source is the following:

{quote from physicist} "Number one, we have this phenomenon whereby we found that certain insulators, and some insulators are more effective than others, if we apply a high frequency, high voltage, alternating field across an insulator that we produce this [J.Willard] Gibbs phenomenon, this non-Maxwellian field, which has a differential polarization, that is, that it creates a polarity differential between it and the environment such that neutral and charged air molecules are accelerated at extremely high speed, not very low speed, but at very high speed toward the emitter. As these molecules are accelerated they collide with other molecules in the air and when this collision occurs the electrons are knocked off the molecules, that is, free electrons are knocked off the molecules and they in turn are accelerated by this field and then collide with the other molecules causing a discharge of more electrons and this is the origin of the basis of what we call the electron cascade."

SO what does this all have to do with the kick?? We talked a lot about the RE event occurring when the current starts to flow, but there is an even simpler way of looking at it too. When the current first starts (particularly during a high voltage spike), we have this abrupt charging of the wire which creates a positive electric field around the outside surface. This electric field is always positive no matter which way the current flows and its magnitude is simply a function of the changing voltage potential on the wire. The faster the rise time of the voltage on the wire, the stronger this E-field burst will be. So, it?s possible that this abrupt E-field ejection from the wire could free up some electrons in the air around the wire and accelerate them towards the wire.

If we time the pulses just right or we simply make enough of them, we can cause an avalanche of charges to be accelerated towards the wire to contribute to our output current 'kick'. But as Grumpy and others have noted, the effectiveness of this depends on the rise and fall times of the spike.

So I am proposing that a simple piece of wire with a sharp voltage applied is a particle accelerator.

If we think again about the King's electron story, we can see how each 'kick' of the control wires would bring in a lot of extra electrons. So what do we do? We 'kick', disconnect, and let the collector collect and dissipate the charges.

God Bless,
Jason O