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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#1575
May 19, 2007, 03:33:14 AM
"whereas the superior electron cascade effect creates free-electrons actually in the environment by speeding up electrons, which in turn collide with air atoms, to create more free-electrons."

Jason,
The above is from the link you posted.  The air atoms that are being collided with in the collector are not regular particles.  I have an entire post nearly finished, for tomorrow, dealing with pressure waves caused by amplified sound and their affect on air molecules within the collector.  But this fits so well I had to add my two cents.

But if this is true, where does it leave the whistler wave?

But if this is true, it might explain the AC 5000 HZ in one of the engineering reports.

But where does the whistler fit If it is High Freq.  Could this same process be done at 8 Hz?

Thank you for your time,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

#1576
May 19, 2007, 03:47:27 AM
Let's say that we are wrong for a minute about the whistler wave. 

The Ionizer is using static electricity to clean the air.  Could that be the answer that fits the Tesla clue and the magnetometer going off the chart..

"Static electric fields occur naturally in the atmosphere, particularly under thunderclouds, and can lead to lightning strikes"

Perhaps it was not the magnet wave around a thunderstorm, but rather the cause of that wave, being the static electricity.  No lightning, no magnetic field, no magnetic field, no Tesla mangetometer going crazy.  Just thinking aloud!

A very good link that clears up misconceptions about static electricity
http://amasci.com/emotor/stmiscon.html
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Jdo300

#1577
May 19, 2007, 04:01:51 AM
Hi btentzer,

I am not sure exactly how the whistler waves would fit into this explanation as I have not really considered them in my TPU theory. I know others have talked a lot about them, especially with respect to the magnetic reconnection thread over on the Gn0sis forum.

I do agree with you that in the case of the TPU, we are not accelerting air molecules, we want the electrons from the air molecules (or juat any free-floating electron in the atmosphere). They are all over the place riding on the flux lines of the earth's field coming from the poles onward. I have no idea how many free electrons there are at ground level though. That would be a good thing to look up though.

QuotePerhaps it was not the magnet wave around a thunderstorm, but rather the cause of that wave, being the static electricity.  No lightning, no magnetic field, no magnetic field, no Tesla mangetometer going crazy.  Just thinking aloud!

I absolutely agree with you here! This is exactly what happens in a nuclear explosion that causes the intense EMP burst. When the gamma rays knock off all the free electrons, and they get accelerated back to the cloud, their acceleration produces the huge magnetic boom. So now that I think about it, we may not need to actually capture the electrons from the air molecules around us at all. Perhaps all we want to do is jar them enough to accelerate them so that they all produce a large magnetic wave that can be 'collected' by the collector coil. This explanation would seem to fit the magnetometer explanation nicely. This explanation also lines up more with Steven's explanation of the kick being the result of the "earth's electromagnetic field" contributing some energy... Maybe that is simply the electromagnetic field induced from the atmospheric interaction?

God Bless,
Jason O

Bruce_TPU

#1578
May 19, 2007, 04:33:30 AM
What voltage and what frequency are you thinking?

My guess, try 5000 Hz, but I have no Idea about the voltage.  How much is required to start the reaction in the air cleaning device?

If you look at that thread I posted, It has some info on high voltage use and static electricity that may be useful to you

We can leave no stone unturned,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

giantkiller

#1579
May 19, 2007, 04:46:29 AM
Duh...
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