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Overunity Machines Forum



Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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bolt

You notice again in the vids every time we think of an idea i look back at SM's notes and vids and try to make sense of it. Up till now you'all been whacking these coils with 2 or 3 amp pulses and anything up to gigs of RF and wondering why you get mag shock waves up your arms and blinding headaches. But SM shows a different side to his TPU's. He and others often hold these things even go walkies with them so they are not producing nasty kicks? When held they gently vibrate an he only warns people about touching the output wires obviously! So why is this? The answer is i believe the frequencies induced into the system are very low audible mostly but we are tapping into basically magnetism not RF. I know its more than this but we are not dealing with gigs of RF here or should i say shouldn't be unless you whack it pulses.

When used in this manor they are replicating a mechanical SSG wheel and are safer to work on as everything is in the Hz to Khz range. There are still many questions but the bits of the jigsaw appear to be coming together. Please think about these lower frequencies. They are only control frequencies to excite the collector and its the "speed" of the collector which provides the RE. The bits to be worked out is what order the coils use what frequencies, how is the feedback arranged between the segments, what stability do we really need? I do feel sure that someone will see something remarkable very soon even if the control aspects take some time to iron out. Even if it runs for seconds its a big clue.

acerzw

@bolt

A very important observation, something that has worried me for some time, this is definitely the right direction. I have always thought that the side effects of these TPU's were fairly dire when compared to SM's. Lower frequencies seems the logical answer.

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Mannix

Bolt,GK,.and all
it good to see some "inertia" here
I hope that this is useful...just me here ...No  quotes

I'm not sure that the actual low frequencies are correct but the relationships and the harmonic reactions  are almost exactly what have been described..now, how to get really clean sine  with no odd harmonics from the source ? we could use linear mode mosfets or ........?
I aren't gunna say it!!!ha

this is a musical instrument  in one way.

now with these harmonics in mind, read the carl doc again...it might have changed on you


GK sorry if this is straying a bit..I suggest that you inject 3 very clean sines, low level if you like ,120k - 500k and I wonder if  you will  have trouble  to hold to some frequency  combinations..like a lump...8 hz wide!

I believe the frequency source may be  the tpu itself  and the relationships between the coils creates the swirling field because of their spacial relationships and electrical phasing. each one is dependant on the other, that is why a magnet is so  useful..that is also why blocking oscillators are so much fun to tinker with. it also explains why a magnet is unnecessary for power ...just very handy.
remember in one video he does an experiment of his own? he takes the magnet and runs it around the coil. those who have played with blocking oscillators will see the significance of this tuning method..also keep in mind lester hendershot who started out making a electrical compass.


How do we wire these 3 cannons to chase the others fuses?

we come back to the seike type oscillator...

I'm thinking 3 blocking oscillators on the same ring..with carefully placed trigger windings like a 3 cylinder radial engine with variable timimg but in the videos there are 2 rings and 4 sections!!!

NOW, I have a headache!...and the crux of the riddle  as i see it.

good hunting all

Lindsay






giantkiller

A little progress.
The TPU is up on a rack to accomodate the center suspended fets.
In this test I am putting the 1 freq at 10k. I am bringing it down and watching the current. The other two freqs are @ 150k, arbitrary for now.
I got hellacious noise or some kind of feedback pulses coming around. The pattern has a symmetry to it. I will pursue it.
Runs .1 to .6 amps depending on the feedback. This could be good.

This is not a real concise test. I just got the suspension in place and found a bug in my timers somewhere. Got to check that.

Alot of previously mentioned design parameters are in this. I can do just about any flexible change to it I need. And always testing any mentionings of the operation that deem of value. And so far this model is what all the prior hoopla has been about.

I can do the 5k freq but not the sine wave test as of yet. Got to get a genny of some sort or throw in a circuit change. I can also switch to my transistor driver for that signal.

And this is the way it is. I get so far and the designs change with new ideas thrown in. It all takes time. And it hasn't stopped. Rocket science on a shoestring.

--giantkiller. No blown fets in this setup so far.

acerzw

GK,
     thats great, good to see...

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