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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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Jdo300

Quote from: turbo on May 02, 2007, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: weri812 on May 02, 2007, 08:28:23 AM
hi all

@turbo

is that a harddrive cable in the middle of that tpu

wer

old 1,44 floppy disk cable i believe it has 32 leads.

@Jason here is the pic.

"Most of the more successful units we made had control wiring run or wrapped vertically over the horizontal collector wires.  You can see them in the units in some of the videos under black plastic covering.  They were run perpendicular to the travel of the collector wires.
They were run in multiple segments.  Each segment could be fed a different frequency individually and or from a collector section to help perpetuate the oscillation and control."

Hi Turbo,

Great observation! I never noticed the ripples in the tape on the TPU like that. It all makes sense though.

The more and more I think about this thing, the more I think Tesla coils and resonant rise. Mr. Mark advised us many time about what would happened if we tune to close to the conversion frequency. It would essentially turn into an ungrounded T-coil...... Most of them have some sort of grounded rod nearby so that when the resonant rise in the secondary produces incredible voltage gains, some of that energy can be 'drained' off by the grounding rod.

We don't have a grounding rod in the TPU, only the collector....

So if the collector cannot dissipate the potential fast enough, we get a blow out.... lightning would be the least of our problems in that case... It all makes sense now.

Just like the T-coil, we want to tune our coils to specific frequencies, particularly harmonic frequencies because they have this nice tendency to multiply at resonance.

Another point, Voltage = speed. Well, guess what we do with the input from the wall before it goes into the primary of a T-coil, it is usually stepped up through something like a neon sine transformer and dumped into a cap.... Once the cap fills, the charge is dumped through a spark gap and into the primary..... There's your control circuit. It's hight voltage, low current discharges.......

Thats why the tubes work better! They are high voltage low current devices, unlike their SS counterparts which are low voltage high current devices!

One more point... If a T-coil secondary has a secondary coil which is tuned to a fundamental frequency of X Hertz, then it follows that this coil  can also resonate a 2X Hz and 3X Hz and up... So if we create a situation where harmonics are produced and feed them back in, we get an immense voltage and frequency gain... Frequency = Energy = Power. Voltage = Speed + potential to do work.

Just look at Planck's equation if you don't believe me...

E = hf = mc^2

So more frequency = more power. So if we have a mass of something (like the copper in the coils), and we make this mass resonate faster and faster, we have an energy gain.... But this energy is useless unless we create a potential drop to move it somewhere. So the High voltage provides the energy 'pump' to get the energy from the atoms in the copper to useful Electrical power.

It's a good thing Mr. Mark decided to take all that free potential gain and dump it into his collector coil rather than a ground rod, don't you think?

God Bless,
Jason O

Jdo300

Quote from: turbo on May 03, 2007, 01:59:19 AM
when the incredibaly fast moving magnetic field shoots by one small segment with many TURNS and one end is connected to the collector, it will induce a high voltage spike on it which will supercharge the collector in the same way the one wire does coming out of an car ignition coil.

Hi Turbo,

Excellent point! Quick question though, for the segment(s) that have one end connected to the collector, where would the other end be connected?

Quote from: turbo on May 03, 2007, 01:59:19 AM
if the collector is charged to 800 volt due to the many high voltage spikes from the bobine like segments it will be charged more positive then the environment it is sitting in and charged to which is about 300 volts.
this creates a potentional diffrence in charges.
there is a possibillaty it will just suck in electrons from the environment, this is what i am trying to do with my new coil.

Turbo.

This is far beyond a possibility, it is a fact. That is why T-coils produced all the lightning. Such a huge stress on the environment to the point that electrons come streaming into it from all over the place....

God Bless,
Jason O

weri812

@Mannix

corect me if i am wrong
that brings all of us back to the basic

we have  a closed collecter coil made of soft insolated mild steel or copper
we have  3-4-or 6  fine wire controler coils wraped around the collecter
then we have equel number of  outer colecter coils of larger wire wraped around the controler coils for current to run our  lights or other devices 

this is what i see from sm and tesla  discription 8)

wer
PUT YOUR MIND IN GEAR BEFORE  YOU PUT YOUR MOUTH IN MOTION

innovation_station

hello all

what if all control winding were all 1 wire and you plused from the top and the bottom i just about finished my coil i will be posting pictures tonight and how i wired it

when i checked my out put last it was only with 2 rings i was getting 26 volts ac and over 3 amps from 12v dc 1 amp input

no electronics just input to output

is
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Mannix

Quote from: weri812 on May 03, 2007, 08:13:01 AM
@Mannix

corect me if i am wrong
that brings all of us back to the basic

we have  a closed collecter coil made of soft insolated mild steel or copper
we have  3-4-or 6  fine wire controler coils wraped around the collecter
then we have equel number of  outer colecter coils of larger wire wraped around the controler coils for current to run our  lights or other devices 

this is what i see from sm and tesla  discription 8)

wer

I would not say that you are wrong but I do not see the latter coils in my picture..If you have a vision..wind it and see if it is of assistance that is the only way to be more sure.


I see it as  a mini particle accellerator