Acoustical feedback energy system

[Willy]

Sorry I was still editing this on line when you posted.

There is no over unity in the conventional electrolysis.

The joules of energy as electric input are equal to the joules of heat energy
produced in the electrolyte by ohmic resistance plus the heat of the combustion
of the hydrogen and oxygen,

Except there may be some recombination of hydrogen and oxygen within the
electrolyte solution itself.

The over unity occurs when the electrolysis system is combined with the buoyancy
system.

Hydrogen from the electrolysis is allowed to rise in the atmosphere instead of
burning it.

When a weight object is lifted by the hydrogen's rise in atmosphere, the kinetic
energy potential present in that lifted object at height, can be very very much so greater
than any energy expended in that hydrogen production itself.

Very very very large potential energy can be thusly obtained.

The hydrogen can be burned at altitude and the water will fall, but this is not necessary
in order for the output to be greater than the input.

[aleks]

When a weight object is lifted by the hydrogen's rise in atmosphere, the kinetic
energy potential present in that lifted object at height, can be very very much so greater
than any energy expended in that hydrogen production itself.

Some experimenters use buoyancy of water to extract energy via raising air, and the claims of OU were made. So, your model may be correct, but probably not too practical - you'll also need to raise 1 atom of oxygen per 2 atoms of hydrogen, and thats not easy to do as oxygen is comparably heavy. The gravity force is a tricky one - consider an elastic object falling under gravity.  It will fall on the ground, make several bounces, and come to standstill. Where does its energy go? On a planet without atmosphere one can say it partially converted into compression of the object, but another part of energy gained from falling from a high altitude seems to be lost? Then space satellites use gravity maneuvers, they basically get free energy in a bigger scheme of things.

[Willy]

Next moves in the game book.

If it cannot be plausibly denied, don't acknowledge it. Cast some degree of doubt instead
and then down play any significance it has. Next, dismiss it and divert attention to something
similar.  Finally create a conflict.

[aleks]

Next moves in the game book.

If it cannot be plausibly denied, don't acknowledge it. Cast some degree of doubt instead
and then down play any significance it has. Next, dismiss it and divert attention to something
similar.  Finally create a conflict.

That's the usual tactic when big money are involved. "Conservation of energy" paradigm capitalizes trillions of dollars.

[Willy]

Shall we get back onto your topic ?