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Reactive Current - Parallel RCL

Started by nix85, June 01, 2021, 08:43:14 AM

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lancaIV

#27: 1947 Hendrik Casimir in angstrom-level what Otto v.Guericke did with two half-spheres ( Blaise Pascal)
          1951 "ether of particles" also known as 'sea' : Dirac sea

nix85

I been looking into balanced and unbalanced lines again. OMG how the massacred this subject, there is only confusion and ignorance left. Only this guy explains it right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-DKuye6ODg

Some basics everyone here knows, coax is unbalanced, inner and outer conductor have different geometry and impedances, unlike balanced two identical pair lines.

I see most people out there think "ground wire" carries no signal, even NO CURRENT (HAH!), just like most of them think "ground/neutral wire" in their homes has no voltage on it.

"Ground wire" carries EXACTLY THE SAME CURRENT, EXACTLY THE SAME SIGNAL.

Ground means just common reference voltage point in the circuit.

There is no difference between signal, it's the same signal going through both conductors. Ground is purely arbitrary and could be switched around, just like "live and neutral" in powerlines.

I am not talking about differential current here for audio where 3 wires are used, two of which carry signal 180° out of phase.

To quote from wiki

"Most explanations of balanced lines assume symmetric (antiphase) signals but this is an unfortunate confusion—signal symmetry and balanced lines are quite independent of each other. Essential in a balanced line is matched impedances in the driver, line and receiver. These conditions ensure that external noise affects each leg of the differential line equally and thus appears as a common mode signal that is removed by the receiver. There are balanced drive circuits that have excellent common-mode impedance matching between "legs" but do not provide symmetric signals.[8][9] Symmetric differential signals exist to prevent interference to other circuits - the electromagnetic fields are canceled out by the equal and opposite currents. But they are not necessary for interference rejection from other circuits."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_line#Balanced_and_differential

And this.

"Provided that the impedances of two conductors in a circuit are equal (it is balanced), external electromagnetic interference tends to affect both conductors identically. Since the receiving circuit only detects the difference between the wires, the technique resists electromagnetic noise compared to one conductor with an un-balanced reference (low-Ω connection to ground).

Contrary to popular belief, differential signaling does not affect noise cancellation. Balanced lines with differential receivers will reject noise regardless of whether the signal is differential or single-ended, but since balanced line noise rejection requires a differential receiver anyway, differential signaling is often used on balanced lines. This improves SNR, reduces EMI, and makes the signal more immune to ground currents or differences.[1]

The technique works for both analog signaling, as in balanced audio, and in digital signaling, as in RS-422, RS-485, Ethernet over twisted pair, PCI Express, DisplayPort, HDMI and USB."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_signaling#Advantages

stivep

Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 03:43:12 PM
And who are you to question OU or ever worse define what electricity is?
Answer:
Here is who I'm:
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293

Position in human horde  is affecting you as an animal and  your influential status.
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg558293/#msg558293
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Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 03:43:12 PM
For God's sake, you don't even believe it is possible,

Answer:
For physics God doesn't exist . {In more elegant form I'll say: - Physics doesn't recognize God.)
And for Darwin - you are just an animal - a the mammal to be exact.
Go to church with your believes...
or to one of my favorite synagogues - great entertainment , you'll not get bored  there.
Yes it's 4-6hours event,- happiness, smile, casual conversation, new social connections, some business talk, ..
I had some science talk with  another  scientist. --- all of that is  tolerated  ..well... sort of...  :) if done..


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Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 03:43:12 PM
OU  doesn't exist with that attitude.


Answer:
There is and never was - an attitude  making OU - overunity to be  lesser of a nonsense.
In physics I don't accept any  believes.- OU  doesn't exist.
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Quote from: nix85 on June 08, 2021, 03:43:12 PM
Your perspective is waaay too limited to give informed opinion on these subtle subjects.
"subtle" : everything that is so delicate or precise as to be difficult to analyze or describe.

Answer:

Physics doesn't recognize  words "delicate, subtle , limited, precise or difficult"
Physicist analyzes phenomena and publishes results in form of an opinion on these subjects.
If other physicists can replicate the published results than we:
- create new model
- correct  existing model.
- support and further improve the quality of  a model.

I'm in physics for more than 30 years now.
Wesley

nix85

Quote from: stivep on June 09, 2021, 08:33:57 AM
Answer:
I'm in physics for more than 30 years now.
Wesley

Bunch of pulp again. There is God, our most inner Self beyond Mind.

There is subtle in physics, most subtle Primary Light cascades down into ever slower and cruder forms of expression all the way down to "matter" which is but trapped light.

Belief is good as long as it is based on open minded extensive research combined with intuition. OU has long been out of realm of belief for anyone who did enough research into it.

I never used term difficult as there is nothing difficult in nature except for the one who makes it so for himself, usually due to ignorance.

Mainstream physics believes in many particles they have no way of detecting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles#Hypothetical_particles

For Adepts, there is no belief, they see the insides of subtatomic particle from all sides simultaneously just like you see macroscopic objects. Nature keeps no secrets from the Master. Others need instruments that can never reach the same perfection of perception. By this inner sight, occultist knew the structure of reality long before physics was even a thing.

You proclaimed yourself a physicist for 30 years, isn't it ironic that you dare to crown yourself with such title, you don't even understand the 4th law of motion.

You don't even understand that centrifugal force focused on one side of rotation can lift whole device into air + massive amounts of weight, like so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHPna2WF_g0

What kind of physicist are you if you don't know even this most basic of natural principles?

nix85