Reactive Current - Parallel RCL

[stivep]

related to: Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL « Reply #3 on: June 06, 2021, 11:56:58 PM »


Dear nix85
Here  is  an example of coils only amplification.
I hope you'll start to understand my answer  in  post  from above now .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUIYY1-Fp9o
Magnetic Amplifier


if you listen only to end of this  video - click  here
it explains why transistors were used to replace  magnetic amplifiers .
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here is some more:
_{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_a5wrXNqgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB3HBoKPbOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBX1-POuJMw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAQvvfAE0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wLCoQoFCjE}

Wesley

[stivep]

// specially ridiculous. - Let's first look at this nonsense:

"it is not current but  frequency of resonance that matters"
Frequency is the boss here."

Tuning radio to the frequency of your favorite FM station is done by your hand, tuning circuits to resonance.
It is like opening the door for this FM station.

But you are paying for:
-  losses of energy  used to convert EM energy into sound.
-  for food giving energy to your hand that is turning the knob.
Benefiting emotionally while listening to the music is a  pleasure of a loser
happy to have temporary pleasure he paid for.
No physical net gain makes you lesser of a money loser .

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Challenging me you are showing the entire nonsense of loosed battle .
No physical net gain makes you lesser of a loser  in  the battle.

Emotion is  the biggest reason of waste of your time and money.
-you are likely  just a fool paying for the restaurant bill with your girlfriend and all her other pleasures.
-Your entire life is just an emotion making you to lose big time.
-house, car, boat, is not your gain it is just  an excuse of you as a loser showing an effect of that, what was left after  all losses.
Yes you are loser  but be happy - you are not alone  
o yea..

Wesley

[nix85]

Mandatory definition
<sub>is - required by a law or rule  of physics.

The word has a meaning  even if it is your  pet name....

<insert more nonsense></sub>

The sweetest battle is when the "enemy" defeats himself.

This pile of shit is hardly worth replying to but i'll address the main "points",
if they only could be called that.

Again, overunity is a good term, better than free energy cause FE includes solar,
wind etc while OU implies (non radioactive) device "in a box" that requires no input
energy of any kind except that which it extracts within the bounds of it's own box
except the small starting energy usually provided from an external battery. So such
systems are literally over-unity, unity being the energy initially provided and energy
it consumes to continue operation, and over being the excess energy to supply loads.

He continues with..

No my friend there is no amplification at all in any form in resonant circuits RLC
Such  amplification  is  an illusion of  an uneducated experimenter but yes  you can see its  local value

No my friend, such amplification is NOT an illusion, it is an actual increase in voltage/current and anyone who can tell apple from a pear would not claim otherwise. There is real measurable increase of voltage/current.

And voltage or  current response is only secondary phenomena when frequency  is tuned to resonance. And if not than there is no  such phenomena taking place.

Imagine, there has to be resonance first in RESONANT RLC circuit for amplification
effect to occur. GENIUS!

In any resonance circuit  LRC there is a rule :
resonate first and than radiate.

RLC circuits are not meant to radiate, they are used as variable tuned circuits,
filters, oscillators, voltage multipliers and pulse discharge circuits. We are not
talking about antennas.

So he continues the unrelated rant about nonresonant antennas and how
"you must  match that antenna impedance". IMAGINE! Pure genius.

Funny how you forgot to add you do NOT have to match the impedance
of the transmission line (balanced or non balanced) and the antenna if you
know that impedance of the antenna is repeated every half wavelength
down from the antenna, it does not matter what the characteristic impedance
of the transmission line is and that you have to take into account velocity factor
of the feedline..

...There is no amplification taking place there as  you see only presence of local phenomena characteristic to  the type of RLC circuit.

This is not just "local phenomena" cause this amplification
is tapped by other parts of the circuit and used in very real way.

Then he goes on a rant with nonsensical parallel about force distribution
and some silly LC tank basics like Xc and Xl cancel at resonance. He of course
does not provide the formulas

XL= 2πfL
XC= -1/2πfC
Z = sqrt(R² + (Xc - Xl)²)
F = 1/6.28(LC)

Then comes the main nonsense

However power delivered to the LRC circuit will be always bigger  than  that  coming out from the circuit.( filter)
when  you have  big  current you have small voltage  , but power  is always the same
when  you have  small  current you have big voltage  , but power  is always the same
So there is no amplification taking place  at all ..  It is just losses that makes output power to be smaller

HA! Reactive power is exactly Q times bigger than input power, NOT the same!
That is the whole point You do not grasp the very basic of (R)LC tanks.

Then he goes on a rant how amplifier's amplifying is an illusion.

In reality "amplification" is just  use of  power from your outlet to drive  another stage of the transistor  with bigger  voltage and/or current.

My my, this is a circus!

Then he continues the rant about magnetic amplifiers..

Then he goes back to rant about term overunity..

..So only  coupling to  energy that doesn't cost us money  will give you FE.
and that is why nonsense   of "overunity"  should be eliminated  as confusing these who don't yet  understand  as much as you are my friend

Wesley

Then some more nonsense about saturation amplifier..

Then he continues with

Tuning radio to the frequency of your favorite FM station is done by your hand, tuning circuits to resonance.

It is like opening the door for this FM station.

More sky is blue lines. Of course no mention of Varactor Diode or Heterodyne principle.

But you are paying for:
-  losses of energy  used to convert EM energy into sound.
-  for food giving energy to your hand that is turning the knob.
Benefiting emotionally while listening to the music is a  pleasure of a loser
happy to have temporary pleasure he paid for.
No physical net gain makes you lesser of a money loser .

It seems he is trying to prove what i said in very beginning of this thread.
To quote myself "This is not OU principle by itself" (altho it can be in
certain cases, as already said and linked to).

And his final fiasco..

Challenging me you are showing the entire nonsense of loosed battle .
No physical net gain makes you lesser of a loser  in  the battle.

Emotion is  the biggest reason of waste of your time and money.
-you are likely  just a fool paying for the restaurant bill with your girlfriend and all her other pleasures.
-Your entire life is just an emotion making you to lose big time.
-house, car, boat, is not your gain it is just  an excuse of you as a loser showing an effect of that, what was left after  all losses.
Yes you are loser  but be happy - you are not alone
o yea..

Wesley

OMG i feel sorry for this guy, these are hard to find these days, this level of ignorance,
this level of self humiliating and shameless halfwit...just beyond anything seen on this forum.

[stivep]

Again, overunity is a good term, // So such systems are literally over-unity, // being
the energy initially provided and energy it consumes to continue operation, and over being the excess energy to supply loads.

_Answer:

But it doesn't exist.
Godzilla doesn't exist too.
For physics God doesn't exist too
And for Darwin - you are just an animal - the mammal.

He of course does not provide the formulas

_Answer:
I did but you didn't look in the link.

So  now you nix85  - please provide me:
1. formula for overunity.
2. just any scientific publication  if you find  just one  I will be  surprised.
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overunity is a good term,//OU implies (non radioactive) device "in a box" that requires no input
energy of any kind.

_Answer:
Where  did you get this formulation from?
Is it  only the product of your imagination?
-no credible link..  right?
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RLC circuits are not meant to radiate,//
  //some silly LC tank basics

Answer:
Each antenna element radiating modes are modeled by a combination of RLC circuits while the
tank circuits represent the inter-mode couplings.
The mutual coupling between the corresponding radiating mode of antenna elements is represented by M 1, M 2, and M 3.
here is a link : Each%20antenna
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This is not just "local phenomena" cause this amplification
is tapped by other parts of the circuit and used in very real way.

Answer :
examples of local phenomena;
local oscillator          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_oscillator
local resonance        https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/localized-surface-plasmon-resonance
local current flow      https://www.answerout.com/decrement-of-local-current-flow/
local amplification     https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2012JB009208
Conclusion:
In the system  all of _{local phenomena}  manifest their presence only if recognized, measured, locally.

Amplifiers are the circuits that are designed to improve the intensity of the signals.
Amplifier energy consumption  is bigger  than  energy at output of the amplifier.
amplifier-its-working-circuit

Whichever kind of amplifier you use, you never get out more energy than you put in.
https://www.explainthatstuff.com/amplifiers.html

Dear nix85 Can you understand English language from above?

Wesley

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I apologize for the offtopic.
In Russia, many people believe that the president and the government, and especially the central bank, are controlled from abroad.  What would you say to these people?
I'll add that I don't think so ...