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Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis

Started by Eighthman, July 22, 2021, 01:27:58 PM

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Eighthman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6EBXY4iXxQ


If free energy exists as a reasonably buildable device, it likely would involve some omission or accidental oversight in physics - as so much has been explored or debunked for so long.


As to areas that might contain such an omission, they could be subjects that are avoided or quickly dismissed - such as centrifugal force, which is dismissed as a 'pseudo- force' or examining unbalanced/asymetrical rotation - since nearly all engineering is devoted to eliminating that inbalance.  An example would be the tires on your car which are balanced to prevent harmful or unpleasant vibrations in your driving experience. 


This idea about 'looking in the trash' for the occasional discarded valuable came to me while finding unpopular stocks on Wall Street that were overloooked  - and eventually profitable.  The field of money is the most analyzed and examined field in all human endeavour. If the valuable very rare exception can be found there, why not other fields such as science?


There have been many devices across decades that involve rotation and odd mechanical movements that claim free energy - such as the Skinner drive, the Linevich device or even the Bessler wheel. Could they be exploiting a real effect?


The experiments of physicist Richard Vialle suggest they might be.  In the above video, a balance beam consisting of a motor on one end, is driving a heavy wheel on the other end.  Acceleration seems to produce a momentary loss of mass while deacceleration produces a momentary gain. This is similar to the claims once made by physicist Kozyrev about irregular motion and mass (measured weight disappearing and reappearing in small amounts).


I regret that nearly every link about Vialle's work have disappeared. That short video is the best I could do.  I could speculate as to why......


Now, suppose we have a flywheel that is unbalanced.  As the heavier side rotates downward, it accelerates and looses some mass briefly.  As it travels upward from 180 degree/the bottom most point, it regains that lost mass until it returns to top dead center.


The free energy emerges from the fact that torque can be taken off from the downward rotation while adding back lost torque during the ascent.  However (!), the ascent of the unbalanced side of the wheel is slightly 'lighter' or less massive - until it returns to the top.  There would be a small momentary difference in mass or weight between the two 180 degree movements - to exploit.


Thus, by repeating/iterating - free energy could be accumulated from a switched clutch action ( as with the Linevich device and possibly others) while a switched motor drive adds back the slightly smaller torque needed to maintain RPMs.  An inventor named Wuerth made a claim such as this ( but got into financial trouble, injuring his credibility)


Think of all the goofy overunity devices reported - as with the Clem motor or odd motor drives with slipping belts - that this simple effect could explain.  Tighten the belts and "fix" the imbalance and the free energy claims go away. Exactly !

Kator01

Dear friend,
this topic has been discussed in August 2012 here

https://overunity.com/12639/richard-vialles-new-theory-about-negative-mass-and-overunity/
Some of those links lead to a -side, but if you do a research using french titles there are some informations
I have done a quick research with duckduckgo and found this :

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Extraits_Publics%2Fbalance_a_disque_tournant.pdf&ia=web
http://quanthomme.free.fr/qhsuite/2012News/imagesnews12/BalanceAdisqueTournantVialle.pdf
Using his name ahead in the search of the above document there are more information
https://www.academia.edu/18061516/_deprecated_2015_11_10_Th%C3%A9orie_de_Richard_Vialle_R%C3%A9vision_Chapitre_1_2_et_annexes
Its all in french but with online translation tools it shoud be no problem

Mike


Eighthman

Thank you for providing those links that I couldn't find.


The problem with trying to replicate Vialle's work is that it gets diverted into some strange but interesting coils and circuits - that so far haven't yielded unambiguous overunity (AFAIK).  Maybe it's promising but I find it difficult to understand.


If my idea about mass shedding (and return) is correct, then perhaps there is a way to exploit current flow as with Steven Mark, Boyce, or the Sweet devices. Or maybe that was Vialle's idea as well.  Part of my difficulty in visualizing any such miraculous effect involves the tiny movement of electron drift current ( like fractions of an inch - which makes slinging electrons around in any 'centrifugal manner' hard to picture)


My point is that his disc experiment simply shows something has been ignored in physics about motion and mass.  And I relate that demonstration to various free energy claims possibly exploiting this 'mass shedding' idea.


As for the Clem device, I think some sort of asymmetric twisting must have been involved.  This would be similar to the strange pipes that Schauberger used - which rotated the water asymmetrically as it flowed.


In bringing up this subject, I forgot about Fotios Chalkalis and his rotating pendulum.  He made some free energy claims and even got a nice analysis from Kanarev (physicist) but it's gone no where so far.

aussiebattler

Your thoughts about vortex funnelling (Schauberger) are probably correct.I have includrd this in my proposals as well. Of most important issue is the heat extraction from ambient'
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