Another boring Free Energy Debate

[onepower]

Here's an interesting Free Energy debate...

1)If free energy devices are a supposed scam then why has the government seized so many and classified all the material as top secret?. If it's just a scam why all the interest, why all the seized patents and material, why all the NDA's, gag orders and threats?. Obviously it must have some value and be a matter of "national security" otherwise they wouldn't have gone to so much trouble.

2)If free energy devices are a supposed scam then why has every successful FE inventor been approached by government/corporations with briefcases full of money and contracts?. Why is everyone such a hot mess fumbling over each other trying to be the first to get these inventors to sign contract/NDA's if it's not real?...that's kind of strange isn't it?.

3)In many cases like Hubbard, Hendershot, Moray etc there were demonstrations and tests carried out in front of many credible people. Many credible experts tested the devices and determined the claims made were true and that they didn't understand how the devices worked. Should we not believe credible experts, are all experts not to be believed just because we don't like there answers?.

4)If free energy devices are a supposed scam then why has almost every successful FE inventor been threatened including death threats by so many people?. I mean being shot, shot at, poisoned, property stolen and torched, beat up, family members beaten and threatened and the list goes on. Why all the drama and so many people becoming deranged psychopaths over supposedly nothing?...that's kind of strange isn't it?.

It would seem to me anyone claiming there's nothing to see and nobody cares must be blind or stupid. Obviously countless people and government/corporate entities care a great deal otherwise they wouldn't have gone to so much trouble and expense to try to stop FE technology.

I think it's comical... it's not real and nobody cares, ***as they all come completely unhinged and do everything in there power to stop you***, lol.

Regards
AC

[MagnaProp]

1) The goverment wants to maintain control. You maintain control by owning/controlling content, whether the content is valid or not.

2) A lot of "successful" inventors say they have been approached with "briefcases and contracts". When the inventor starts sounding more like a used car salesman that doesn't show their working device, a lot of briefcases and contracts close.

3) The biggest issue I see is wading through the sea of available "credible experts" and determining which ones are actually credible. No shotage of fakes and the real ones are far and few between.

4) Almost every successful FE inventor has a story of being threatened and so on, because they more often than not belong to the category I mention in question number three.


I would one day like to find the patent that Edward Leedskalnin clearly says he filed in one of this books. I believe he belongs to the "credible" category of experts. Can't find a single word elsewhere that goes into it. Hmmmm.

[onepower]

Magnaprop

A lot of "successful" inventors say they have been approached with "briefcases and contracts". When the inventor starts sounding more like a used car salesman that doesn't show their working device, a lot of briefcases and contracts close.

This is where 99% of inventors make there first mistake... Viktor Schauberger was a classic example.

Viktor had the working theory all nailed down and demonstrated working devices to countless credible people. Then some parasite businessmen from Texas conned him into going to the U.S. to demonstrate his devices. They then blackmailed him, forced him to sign contracts/NDA's and never delivered on any of there promises. Viktor having lost his devices, being conned into signing over all his technology for nothing and gagged then returned to Austria where he soon died.

From talking with many other free energy inventors I have come to understand what happened to Viktor Schauberger has happened to almost every other successful inventor. They were conned and gagged or had a misfortunate accident as if every successful FE inventor suddenly becomes accident prone... what a shit show.

Knowing the history of free energy inventors I have adopted a new strategy and when approached by business people/investors I just tell them to f@#$ off. I mean the biggest companies on the planet, ie Microsoft, Apple, Amazon basically started in someone's garage. They recognized the value of there idea and didn't sell out to the first !@#clown peddling false promises they obviously couldn't deliver on. The free energy community should adopt a similar strategy and the moment FE inventors stop allowing themselves to be conned and gagged is when FE goes mainstream.

Back to your statement..."When the inventor starts sounding more like a used car salesman that doesn't show their working device, a lot of briefcases and contracts close". So the correct response is to tell the people with the briefcases and contracts to f!@# off. If people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos can turn a garage based company into a trillion dollar venture then so can we... DIY.

Regards
AC

[onepower]

Here is a good example of a FE inventor doing it himself, DIY.
https://www.hydrogengarage.com/store/
https://www.hydrogengarage.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=90

Bob Boyce is no dummy and like myself he's been around the block a time or two. He has seen his friends and colleagues in the FE community continually getting screwed over by parasitic business people and paid shills peddling BS. So FE inventors may want to consider adopting this strategy...
1)build it, start a company and sell it.
2)if people don't like it they can return it.
3)However this notion that just because someone doesn't "believe it" is bs because beliefs have no place in a business selling real products that work as claimed.
4)if you have a belief that's wonderful, keep it too yourself, nobody cares what you believe, facts matter.

I think this is the way forward for the free energy community because it does many things...
1)it empowers creative people with new idea's.
2)it empowers the inventor to generate there own profit and grow there own business not reliant on some parasite promising the moon who can never deliver.

This should be the new business model every free energy inventor should embrace in my opinion. This notion of trying to convince other people consumed by false beliefs is a lesson in failure. Let them believe whatever nonsense they want, meanwhile our company will be selling real technology people want... deal with it.

Regards
AC

[MagnaProp]

...They then blackmailed him, forced him to sign contracts/NDA's and never delivered on any of there promises.
...They were conned and gagged or had a misfortunate accident as if every successful FE inventor suddenly becomes accident prone...
...So the correct response is to tell the people with the briefcases and contracts to f!@# off. If people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos can turn a garage based company into a trillion dollar venture then so can we... DIY....

The odds are not stacked in our favor, that is for sure. The points I highlighted lead to one of the biggest reasons free energy peeps keep failing. We are pasionate about what we do. To the point of not caring about much else. Especilly the business side of things which most of us consider the root of all evils. If you don't have business sense, or the sense to hire someone that does, then you will most likely fail. Even those that have succeeded have come very close to failure. Elon Musk has videos where he talks about how close Tesla was to failing. Tesla is till propped up by selling a lot of carbon credits to other companies. That's still considered a large bubble that could burst for Tesla. Other "successfull" companies like Uber and Lyft still loose a billion or two each quarter. They only exist still because corportations keep giving them millions. Just two examples of how difficult it is to have a truly "successfull" business. Imagine how many of us would succeed if there were corporations willing to give us millions as we loose a billion or two each quarter.

Giving it my best shot though currently. I expect one of three outcomes from my endeavor in the next two years.

1- My device works and as a result I will be dead in two years.
2- My device works and I'm a multimillionaire from it.
3- My device doesn't work so I'll still be alive.

Things are leaning towards 1 and 3 but I'm hoping for outcome number two.