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Started by Johnsmith, December 22, 2021, 08:33:09 PM

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Johnsmith

 With a video, what I'd like to show is placing a ring around the wheel I've built. And then show what I'll
be doing instead because it is a prototype. This way people will understand that there is a difference
between a finished product and an idea that is being pursued.
With Bessler's wheel, there are 2 drawings that show he connected opposing weights. With Mt 134, with
the lines being further away from the hub (axle) it does change the appearance. And as both drawing
show, Bessler shows 2 lines connecting opposing weights. And it does require 2 lines, one on each side
of the wheel and not the hub. A swing also requires 2 lines. This is because like a weight wheel, it is equally
supported on both sides. 
Years ago I started building Bessler's clues. A lot of people didn't understand the mechanics involved it
seems. And taking things literally doesn't work with Bessler. With Mt 134, if the wheel were rotated 90°,
then you'd have a line on each side of the wheel connecting both the top and bottom weights. Usually
Bessler shows 2 levers with weights connected together. In that drawing, he shows nothing but a line.
While there are 143 drawings in what John Collins and his friends did, no one has ever made sense of them.
In a way it's like learning analytical trigonometry (am being serious), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvSI2yS5M1w
Might be why so many people had issues with me. How can someone consider Bessler's work without working at it?
What I'm doing, it shows I put the work in. And with calculus you can just go f(x) = dy/dx which can simplify things. What
is the change in rise over run? Of course basic trigonometry and algebra allows for it to be considered. People should
know how something in an expression cancels something else out. This would allow for an overbalance to be realized.
And if what I do works and some people will decide to build one. At the same time, they'll probably want to be a part of
the show that I want to do in Utrecht.

p.s., I have one advanced design that would use water instead of rocks or lead, And in Bessler's time, lead would have been extremely expensive.
Today, 10 lbs. costs about $40. With it in 3 or 4 oz weights, it's about $60. And when pouring 1 lb weights, using lighter weights is better.

p.s.s., with what I'll be showing on my YouTube channel, it will most likely be posted here first. Then when I make the video, you guys will probably
say "so that's what he was talking about".

Johnsmith

 A Russian singer who moved to Finland; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5nUo6G5qw4

A Finnish group; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmiw4FYTg2U&list=RDKmiw4FYTg2U&start_radio=1

If you know history, the Vikings created the Kiev Rys (pronounces Roos). What lead to Russia. Russia literally
means the Rys and I (Rys ee Ya). That means Russia and me or myself. Ya or the backwards R is Ya meaning
I or myself such as mne (MHE in Russian) or to me. Please allow for phonics and the Cyrillic alphabet.
I'd like to think that everyone will enjoy Natalia Tsarikova's singing. Hers or Nightwish.

With music, the cd Great Wave of Horns by Russenorsk; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzIxIaF30gc&list=OLAK5uy_kpBovTGZTVvJCouHHnm_pjT5DNng4U54Q

Russenorsk is a language that was developed by fishermen from both Norway and Russia. Also, Russia has never gone to war against Norway.
The ties between the 2 countries go back to the beginning of Russia. The Rys taught trade and government. It is an "olde" relationship the
people's have.

With Russenorsk, it is the Russian and the Norwegian. With languages, "the" is not a word in Russian. Rys ee norske (Norske refers to the language while Norge refers to
Norway itself) kind of shows what those words mean. With Rusian, it might be руск и норск. In English, that's roosk ee norsk. Roos ee norsk is a softening of the language.
Kind of why I visited Yekaterinburgh, Norway has a history with Russia.

p.s., I'll be working on my build. It is a lot of work. Russia, Norway, Finland and America? Just a distraction.

A bonus for you guys; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBcbtHFPf_c


Johnsmith

 Next week I'll be posting another video. What people will need to understand is that when the ascending
weight wheels move closer to the axle, it is because the imbalance is causing the wheel to rotate, As Bessler
said, his wheel tries to find a balance but it cannot.
If the disc rotated to move the weight wheel closer to the axle of the wheel then the disc would be performing
work. Yet when the wheel itself moves the weight wheels, it is not because the wheel is not using energy to
perform that work.
This shows that resistance is causing the balance of the wheel to change as it rotates. And yet resistance causes
entropy and not conservation of energy. This is what everyone can consider and if need be, wrap a line around a
can. And if the line is weighted down on the other side of the can away from you then you'll notice that without
the can the line is closer to you. And that's basically the theory I am working with on what I call Bessler's Wheel.
And if I am right then I should be able to get the 8 weight wheel version working and maybe the 4 weight wheel
version.

p.s., this is basically using Occam's Razor to consider an idea. http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/OCCAMRAZ.html
And with what I've been doing, I've limited how complex I'll build something. And with what I'm building, it
is what is required. This is why I've taken things one step at a time.

Johnsmith

 This is to hopefully explain the basic principle better. And while using a string and something round is something simple, putting
it to use in a build is a lot of work. After my next video I'll be demonstrating with weights both below and above the axle in 2
different positions. This will show if it is more efficient lifting both weights. This is where with a good computer the frames per second
and the wheels rotation would show if it is more efficient or not.
The first illustration shows the math where the axle for the wheel and the drum have the same center or axle. Only the part of the
drum between the line segment A ---- B is used. The 2nd image shows 2 pulleys shifting the swing of the weight to be under the axle.
It took me a couple of months to grasp this. I think it is because when the weight is shifted it is supposed to restrict the motion of the
arm. And in this configuration, that does not happen.
I am at the library and will be working on a SketchUp drawing (actually 2) which will be included in my video. I'll show how I'll reinforce
the frame so it will remain rigid. I'll also show what I could do because it is a wheel. And I'll explain how stress or the weight of the
wheel influences what I'm doing.

p.s., if anyone tries what I've suggested, what's above everything is the fulcrum or top of the line. It can be placed anywhere as long as
it wraps around the cylinder to the right of the axle.

Johnsmith

 This is a part of what I did at the library. I have my pc working again so will only need to go to the library
for video editing. I tried recording the screen when I moved the ring on to the frame but something wouldn't
let me do that.
With what I am actually building, I'll be able to add plates at the end of the arms for the pulley mounts. And
then to connect the different arms together I'll use either twine or artificial sinew. This will be to make sure
the frame is rigid.
And if I build something that works, I'll give 100% of everything to AB Hammer. This has to be considered his invention.
For the last 15 years everyone supported him. And as I've mentioned, even today at besslerwheel.com everyone will say
I have to give it to him. IMO I had my original Facebook page taken away from me because what I was posting wasn't
pleasing to AB Hammer. And people love the guy because he is a Christian. It is interesting that if this works, I might've
been able to have done it 10 years ago but he needed someone to build his invention for him so he could show how his
faith in Jesus got it built for him. And Christians are allowed to enslave people in Jesus name because it's all about building
a bigger church and having status in the church.
With the video I'll be making, I'll show 3 different tests to see how shifting the balance with the weight wheel above the
axle being positioned higher up its arm. Then after adding more pulleys and connecting 2 opposing weight wheels, will it
show the test was accurate? If so then that would suggest it can work.