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Started by Johnsmith, December 22, 2021, 08:33:09 PM

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Johnsmith

Quote from: i/o on February 11, 2022, 06:09:38 PM
I tried to view it but it is marked private.  Is there a password?


  Thanks for letting me know. I changed the setting to unlisted. With the private setting it is limited to 25 views.
Next week I will be working on making a "rim" for the wheel so it will be a wheel. And then when I show the top
and bottom weights connected, hopefully people will have an idea of why I've been pursuing it.

Johnsmith

 I am in the process of connecting the top and bottom weight wheels. If that test works well then
I will make the ring/rim for it and see if weight wheels can work. In Bessler's time, I think he made
his own bearings. From his description he made a variation of amalgam or silver filling which
dentists use today.
And for what I did in the video, I checked other imbalances. And because I am handicapped, I will
need to take it easy on myself. Being too active can make my situation a lot worse. Still, since I am
building then people shouldn't have an issue with my being handicapped.

Hopefully everyone will understand how everything fits together, The flat board represents the side
of the arm. And with the end of the arm shown, the guides for the weight wheel need to be trimmed
so the pulley mount will act like an end cap as well.
With what is on the left, when it is flipped over, that is how it fill fit over the end of the arm.

p.s., most likely it will be after the 20th when I can post a video showing if this can work. It does take time
for me to do everything.

Floor

@ johnsmith

Thank you and very cool !

        best wishes
                and
                    good success
               
             
                 
       

Johnsmith

Quote from: Floor on February 13, 2022, 01:38:49 PM
@ johnsmith

Thank you and very cool !

        best wishes
                and
                    good success
   


    I know you're being sarcastic. The image is from an internationally recognized leader in perpetual motion. I saved
that thread because he and other respected forum members at besslerwheel.com were discussing how if people
understood engineering like them, they wouldn't try.
And if I am successful I have to say that he as an American and a Christian taught me. It's called "Tough Love".
And as a disabled Veteran why Christians discipline me by not allowing me to have a family in the U.S.
Proverbs 13:24; Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.
                 
Thing is, between AB Hammer and Christians, I'm not their son. It's not up to them to discipline me. Besides, I feel good
about what I'm doing. While it takes both time and money to build, the next test or 2 will determine if I did discover
Bessler's wheel or not. And the thing is, the principle is actually in a child's game yet grownups don't understand it. I tried
explaining this game and the physics in it but no one got it. Kind of why I like what I'm doing.  :o

and at besslerwheel.com, those green dots are earned. Yet neither of those have built anything. Notice saying "give it to us"
makes someone credible. So if I am successful, people will wonder why credible forum leaders say Bessler was a fraud and
perpetual motion is impossible.

And for you Floor, I'll give you a clue to a variation of that child's game with a child's toy, last picture.  8)

Johnsmith

 And now I'm just being a jerk. Okay, Tarsier79 said to give him the secret. This isn't it. It is
a part of Wagner's Roaster. Wagner might've been the person who got Bessler arrested by
calling him a fraud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn72QvWf3Jk
The math behind it is based on Moment of Inertia. There is a lot to it but in the first image you can see
where Bessler drew the line wrapped around something the same way as the boy in the video wrapped
the line around his spinning top.
And with the children's game, there is tether ball. You only need to watch the first 10 seconds because the 3rd grader beat the 5th grader's a$$.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oM8Iax7cLQ
This is an example of centripetal force while a spinning top has centrifugal force. With centripetal force, it is f = mv^2/r
or force = mass times velocity squared divided by the radius. With the game of tether ball, what work was done to get the ball to hit the pole?
If you answered no work then you are correct. When the ball moves into the pole linear from a distance away from the pole, no work is being
done. Now if you said the work done was mass times distance as the ball rotates around the pole, then you are once again right. The pole is
merely shortening the line by creating an obstruction which does not resist the motion of the ball.
And yet grown adults don't understand why a squared circle matters. An arc segment is 1.57 times longer than a straight line. Yet as with tether
ball, we know something can move around a circle without it creating resistance to motion. Also, with using 1/4 of a circle, when the wheel rotates
1/4 of a circle, that is a 1:1 ratio that allows for the line to always be at a 90ยบ angle from the pulley closest to the disc and the axle. This prevents
resistance of motion. And why Tarsier79, AB Hammer and company can not understand how simple this, I guess they never played tether ball as a kid.
And with the game of tether ball, the 3rd grader knew that if she hits it up, it will rotate back down to her. Gravity and inertia had it circle back because
if she hit it harder or softer, the taller 5th grader would get it. She had control. She knew its velocity mattered.

p.s., kind of why I like my chances of success. The disc on my build is basically the same thing as the pole in tether ball. And building with a significant
disability is not an easy thing to do. That and building can be expensive. Let's face it, this isn't a social type interest. When scientists say that perpetual
motion is impossible, they'll say they meant can a rock move itself. Yet when they talk about something rotating on an axis, they call that perpetual
motion as well. But what causes a weight to drop or fall? Where a working machine will have scientists say "Of course you can conserve energy!".
At the moment, scientist say that gravity is a force while it has no energy. ergo, conservation of gravitational force is not possible because gravity has
no energy. What the scientific argument is actually based on if you can believe that. The laws of thermodynamics allows for heat energy to be conserved,
to pursue an equilibrium, etc. So technically a working machine will be conserving the heat content of the Earth's gravitational field as momentum in a
foreign object orbiting the Earth. You know, kind of like the Moon which has slowed the Earth's spin.
And when the laws of thermodynamics are cited, then it is about heat content and if momentum can be changed because of a flow of heat. You know, a
molecule like CO2, H2o vapor or nitrogen dioxide is KE = 3/2kT because the R value among other things relates to momentum, the number of molecules
in a mol, etc. Basically excited gasses expand because the elements in that molecule has more KE which is 1/2mv^2. This is all pretty basic.
And then scientists will say that when it's cold, atmospheric gasses will expand which is why there's a low pressure system.
And yet when they say that gravity can't be conserved as mechanical energy you guys believe them?
Maybe ya'all should go play a nice game of tether ball and say the pole pulled the ball into it even the pole is an inanimate object?

See? I told yu'uns I was being a jerk. Then again I think disabled Veterans in the U.S. will like me and maybe even people who have disabilities which
includes a significant hearing loss or being deaf.

p.s., I'm going to need to load a new OS on my computer. Or at least try. A diagnostic test said everything is okay.