Feeding Hydrogen into engine tips !

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I think someone else mentioned it, but is it possible to use the fuel injection rails to introduce the hydroxy into the engine? I want to try as much as possible to introduce the hydroxy into the engine of the cars I am working with. I have a '90 Dynasty that currently just needs me to replace some fuel lines that lead to the rails from the main fuel lines and a '90 Grand Am that I need to find an engine for.

I too would like to know if anyone has done this. I doubt they would flow enough volume though. Seems to me that you would have to accumulate hydrogen alone under pressure to mix with air and/or O2.

[Draco Rylos]

I know that under normal conditions, the fuel rails are under high fluid pressure which causes the injectors to spray the fuel like they do.  Most people that have been experimenting with hydroxy have been getting lower pressures from their cells. Then they use the vacuum to draw the hydroxy into the cylinders. There is an inherent danger of using the fuel rails though, because of the hydrogen could leak out of the rail when the engine is not running and cause explosive gases to build up under the hood. That seems to be one downside that I have thought about when trying to figure out how to run an engine using the fuel rails and fuel injectors. The injectors would probably have to be modified as well to get enough gas into the cylinder to maintain the engine RPMs. I have also seen some files that have pressure cutoff switches that turn the cell off when the cell reaches a certain pressure, sometimes low pressures sometimes higher pressures.

[MeggerMan]

Hi ZFF,
I too tried to reply to your latest EFIE mods on Youtube (posted today - Sat. 1st Sept 2007), I think the problem lies in a Javascript error on the page - maybe they wrote for IE7 but forgot to test it on other browsers like IE6/Firefox 2 etc.
Its quite amazing that such a small amout of HHO in the mix can effect the oxygen sensor output so much, was it about 500mV without and 600mV with HHO.

If you add HHO into the fuel directly before it gets to the injectors, surely this will cause an air lock and mis-inject of fuel.

How about passing the HHO through an air stone into the fuel so that the HHO is disolved into the fuel - if that is possible.  Maybe similar to the Geet process.
I suppose if you can get the hydrogen and oxygen atoms to bind with the petroleum molecules then you have a fuel that burns cleanly, creates less heat and more importantly, greater downward force on the piston.
After all, if the fuel was to burn very very slowly then the piston would probably not move at all.

Regards
Rob

[rickter]

Or perhaps inject the HHO with a T just befor the fuel pump so it is on the low pressure side, is drawn in and presurized to be delivered with the fuel. I am also wondering if the o2 extenders theat pull the sensor out of the exhaust streem work to control the signal or is the computer chip better?
Thanks
Rickter

[ramset]

Nice Idea but the pump will cavitate     That is unless your talking about diaphram pump    Chet