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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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kolbacict

Answer me the question, how do we know that power is induced on the secondary(rotor) winding precisely from the rotation of the magnetic field.?
And not by direct induction, well, as in a conventional transformer. ???
And in general, how can we differentiate these two phenomena,for use only moving field in space but not in time ?

citfta

Quote from: kolbacict on October 25, 2022, 04:03:17 AM
Answer me the question, how do we know that power is induced on the secondary(rotor) winding precisely from the rotation of the magnetic field.?
And not by direct induction, well, as in a conventional transformer. ???
And in general, how can we differentiate these two phenomena,for use only moving field in space but not in time ?


Hi kolbacict,
if you look at this thread here you will see some experiments I did using a couple of modified alternators.  There are some videos there of my testing.  In one of those videos I allowed the rotor to turn with the rotating magnetic field.  Very little current was induced into the rotor.  Then I locked the rotor and with all other parameters the same the current went up in the rotor.  To me this seemed to prove the rotation of the magnetic field is the primary source of induced current into the locked rotor.


https://overunity.com/19222/maybe-possible-idea-for-duplicating-effect-of-holcomb-and-others/


That was a good question.


Respectfully,
Carroll

bistander

Quote from: kolbacict on October 25, 2022, 04:03:17 AM
Answer me the question, how do we know that power is induced on the secondary(rotor) winding precisely from the rotation of the magnetic field.?
And not by direct induction, well, as in a conventional transformer. ???
And in general, how can we differentiate these two phenomena,for use only moving field in space but not in time ?

Easy. Look at the frequency.
bi

kolbacict

Quote from: citfta on October 25, 2022, 05:21:09 AM
In one of those videos I allowed the rotor to turn with the rotating magnetic field.  Very little current was induced into the rotor.  Then I locked the rotor and with all other parameters the same the current went up in the rotor. 

Carroll
Yes, I also had a similar one with an electric motor with a phase rotor and three brushes.
But why then, when I put the position of the rotor exactly opposite the stator poles, the output voltage increases than when the rotor is between the poles.  For a rotating field, this shouldn't matter.
QuoteEasy. Look at the frequency.
bi
What frequency are you talking about? I have only one output frequency, the one that comes to the input (stator) from my frequency converter.

citfta

If you allow the rotor to turn with the rotating magnetic field the frequency of signal on the rotor goes down because it is staying almost in step with the rotating field.  When you stop the rotor the frequency on the rotor goes up because the rotating field is moving faster in relation to the rotor than it was when the rotor was free to rotate.  This shows that the rotating field is inducing the current into the fixed rotor.
The reason you get better transfer between the rotor and stator at certain positions is because of the position of the coils in both.  In some positions the stator coils have a cancelling effect on the magnetic field because of the overlapping of the coils.  I also found that there were certain positions of the rotor coil in relation to the stator coils that produced the best transfer of energy.  I hope these explanations help you some.


Carroll