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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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bistander

SL & all,
I mentioned that I had previously addressed this subject. I found where I did. Never got an answer to the question: How is HES different from a slip ring induction motor at stall? That answer would certainly help me understand Holcomb's process. So, for convenience, here is the previous post.
bi :-X

Quote from: bistander on June 14, 2022, 11:31:39 AM
Hi all,
From the start, I thought this HES concept was nothing more than a common 3-phase dynamo at stall, including the instant of starting induction motors across the mains just prior to rotation commencing, and even during locked rotor test and overload stalls. These situations have been studied and modelled for years by experts. To my knowledge there has never been a reported overunity or anomalous energy occurrence. The majority of such machines are cage rotor types. But the doubly fed Induction Machines, as used for wind turbines, and slip ring induction motors have access to rotor power directly. So here's my question to anybody. How is HES different from a slip ring induction motor at stall?

Attached is a snapshot showing the device. The rotor can be locked and starting resistors considered the load. Therefore the 3-phase mains provide a RMF thru the stator inducing the stationary rotor and its windings which delivers power to the load while nothing moves (no copper or steel, just magnetic field and electric charge.

Thanks.
bi
https://engineeringslab.com/tutorial_electrical/starting-of-slip-ring-induction-motors-797.htm


listener192

@SolarLab,


Sorry, I cannot find the material you refered to.


L192

kolbacict

QuoteThe rotor can be locked and starting resistors considered the load. Therefore the 3-phase mains provide a RMF thru the stator inducing the stationary rotor and its windings which delivers power to the load while nothing moves
This summer, in my experiments with such a motor with a phase rotor that was inhibited, less power was released in the load of the rotor than was spent on the stator. :(

bistander

Quote from: kolbacict on December 07, 2022, 01:30:08 PM
This summer, in my experiments with such a motor with a phase rotor that was inhibited, less power was released in the load of the rotor than was spent on the stator. :(

That's not surprising. So what is different in Holcomb's system?

I realize now he shows multiple stators, inner and outer, with rotor between, but early versions, and LinGen just had a single stator with moving flux and a stationary rotor (winding separated by air gap). What's missing?
bi

e2matrix

Quote from: bistander on December 07, 2022, 03:28:34 PM
That's not surprising. So what is different in Holcomb's system?

I realize now he shows multiple stators, inner and outer, with rotor between, but early versions, and LinGen just had a single stator with moving flux and a stationary rotor (winding separated by air gap). What's missing?
bi


Perhaps their "electrical metal" is MetGlas or similar ?  Maybe that is the difference...