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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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nix85

https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg578769/#msg578769

The "self-evident" fact that flux lines clash in the wire PROVES wire cuts the flux.

This is wire cutting flux.

EMF is normally induced due to flux lines cutting the wire as they clash in the middle and also when they merge and form big loops of flux passing through the coil.

There is no "another EMF", this is perfectly "normal" induction with both methods flux cutting and linking. If you look at the field lines as i explained countless times and if you calculate according to it, you will see it is exactly as i described.

bistander

Interesting.
https://tinyurl.com/Wireinfield
See the attached graphic from there.

Then this:

Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2023, 08:32:29 AM
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Obviously flux lines never cross, magnetic or electric.
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Then this:
Quote from: nix85 on June 11, 2023, 11:01:13 AM...
is where flux lines first touch.
...

What about flux lines from the current in the conductor? Or if no current previously exists, would not a flux have to surround the wire to move a charge which amounts to inducing a potential?

Causes one to wonder if flux cutting really is proper terminology. Perhaps flux jumping is better, or reconnection? You realize these lines are just mental aids and not real, don't you? Is this actually advancing verification of Holcomb's claims? Would like to see where the flux lines are in Holcomb's cross section, attached, copied from prior Cadman post.
bi

nix85

That image depicts "wire carrying a current is placed in a magnetic field the wire experiences a force due to the interaction between the field and the moving charges in the wire"

So it is the motor effect (laplace) depiction i shared already (below).

We can use these images for induction too BUT, if flux around the wire expelled the incoming fields completely
as shown then no induction should happen for wire could not "see" the flux cutting it, unless we assume that wire's flux becomes its "sensing body", so it senses change of flux not through the wire but by its magnetic field.

This is interesting and important to clarify. I must admit i am not sure either. I know from Magnetman's videos and from experience that stronger flux will penetrate the weaker one, so assuming flux of the magnet is denser weaker wire flux could not expel it to any large extent.

"You can see that in the middle where this is where two large repelling magnets are forcing towards each other and you see right across this middle where the lines of flux are separating and it starts moving out to the edges and goes out to the edge this is what you expect to happen but when they get so close together that there isn't any room for this to happen that's when we get this demagnetizing effect"

"Magnetism goes through anything even another magnet"


SuperMagnetMan Repelling Magnets - Can 2 South Poles stick together?

Whether wire expels the incoming flux fully or almost not at all does not change anything Hooper-Monstein-wise, flux still meets in the middle clashing against the wire (or its flux). Induction happens in normal manner.

"You realize these lines are just mental aids and not real, don't you?" You are wrong there, there are actual individual flux lines, obviously much much denser than illustrated.