Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

[Jimboot]

What a Zoo this place is!

BTW - I post because I enjoy the Joust! Nothing more - I don't give a Shit if you guys ever figure it out or achieve excess energy!

SL

Well I really hope you do achieve it and best of luck to you and all those here. Not sure why you would choose to treat fellow builders this way who have been supportive of your work. I have been grateful publicly. You do not need to convince anyone as you say. So stop trying. Ad hominem attacks from here on in will be moderated.

[listener192]

To be honest I really don't understand why we have this thread running on tens of pages. What is the real interest for this ?

As far as I can see we are discussing a device on the last phase before launching on the market which is under patent protection. Did anyone from Holocomb asked for help from this forum or someone is just sticking their nose for an obscure reason ? What is the benefit of this forum for such a discussion ? Do Holocomb needs a backup from us just in case someone threaten them ? It won't work without full disclosure and as I can see there is no threat as their device still using grid power ( is just increased efficiency).
So, imho is just another smoke and mirrors tactic meant to counter real FE and OU. And mostly looks like an harassment from both sides against each other ... absolutely unnecessary !

For increased efficiency just look for ufopolitics to see how it can be achieved and some new methods for FE ... yet not under patent

I've been holding back to express my opinion for long enough on this thread which lead to nowhere beneficial for Holocomb or this forum.

What I really want to add is, no business big or small will be safe once any 1 device will be in the open, built and operating if this is of concern.
But, this will lead to huge benefit of mankind ending the world order as it is now we're ready available power everywhere could end up hungry, develop travel/transport without pollution in a fast manner for almost any volume needed to be moved and should be happening to end up wasting resources and lives on this planet. No need for wars in this way when you can have almost anything anywhere and all the budgets for crazy destruction of life in any form can be used for something beneficial for all human kind.

Re patents, clarification is required here.

Holcombs device is under the *protection of patent application both WPO and U.S.  *This protection is retrospective to the time of application only if the patent is subsequently granted.
Both WPO and U.S.  have not granted patents. You can check the patent office correspondance to see the objections raised by the examiners.


So you can see that this is far from done and dusted.

As for the Holcomb devices, there is an inline generator which you refered to and there is an off line self looping generator. Holcomb have been very vocal about their developments and their patent applications are in the public domain.


A self looping generator is a very bold claim and people on this forum are interested in these devices and how they actually function and achieve the results they claim.
Many of us want to see the results of more independent testing.


I don't believe this forum exists to provide support for any commercial operation.


If I was an investor in a technical commercial  venture, I would make my own investigations directly. I would not rely on or expect  public forums to help me in this regard.




L192

[adrouk]

Re patents, clarification is required here.

Holcombs device is under the *protection of patent application both WPO and U.S.  *This protection is retrospective to the time of application only if the patent is subsequently granted.
Both WPO and U.S.  have not granted patents. You can check the patent office correspondance to see the objections raised by the examiners.


So you can see that this is far from done and dusted.

As for the Holcomb devices, there is an inline generator which you refered to and there is an off line self looping generator. Holcomb have been very vocal about their developments and their patent applications are in the public domain.


A self looping generator is a very bold claim and people on this forum are interested in these devices and how they actually function and achieve the results they claim.
Many of us want to see the results of more independent testing.


I don't believe this forum exists to provide support for any commercial operation.


If I was an investor in a technical commercial  venture, I would make my own investigations directly. I would not rely on or expect  public forums to help me in this regard.




L192

If this is the case indeed, than means someone want replicators to work for free on their invention which will be under patent and not open source as required from this forum

[TommeyReed]

SL,

"Relief for you all:

Since blatent lies and shilling are acceptable here, I will withdraw from this "Forum"

You all have been given enough information and analysis to achieve an "excess energy"
device, so there is nothing more I can do for you - you will now have to do it for yourselves!

SL".

SL seem to be adding more BS to the fire? You claim to be a engineer analysis, more like false information machine. You have nothing but false data that you can put any numbers into and have the outcome at your own wishes.

Never trust these people, prototypes speaks loader then a video game.

It seem SL, has a ego that won't shut up with his false claims.

He can't build a prototype to show everyone he knows how it works, so he keep making stuff up as a specialist in false information.

Since he can't build it, I have offer many times to help on this forum and build a prototype. It's not that hard when you realize Holcomb used Chinese motors and taped into each field with lots of solid state switching.

If we all get off our ass, then just maybe we will discover this systems and claims are not what Holcomb claim to be.

This has forum is nothing more then a soap opera with lazy fools doing nothing but gossip!

Makes me look like a master builder, while everyone else run their mouth!

Tom

[listener192]

There are some that take the view that an individual may replicate an invention under patent application or patented protection, for research purposes and not for commercial gain, without fear of being sued.

There are others that would be more cautious particulary where an inventor has a history of IP litigation.

So perhaps in this case, there have already been positive and negative attempts, we dont know about. I would not assume that people on this forum have not worked on replications (beyond SL).


If it turns out that both patent applications expire, that may be the time when people publish results, as the IP will no longer be protected.


L192