Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

[stivep]

I am losing my patience seeing how you twist the truth

- Technicality talks to educated in art.
  - Reports about  technicality talks to some others (average housewife may not be moved at all.)
    - Facts using technical language  makes reports valid .
       - Truth  for Holcomb and his promoter SolarLab is different than your Truth  dear adrouk.
          So who is twisting what?
            Holcomb twisted Applications made to fit Patent Office and  attorneys twisting  Court cases,
               are presenting adjusted Truth paid for his commercial interest survival and prosperity.

and you Dear adrouk. twist  the above reality trying it to fit  an open forum agenda.
   Use of more communicative in its form English wouldn't harm you at all.
      Your technicality is judged by the very specific and accurate terminology you have chronic problem to apply.

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        _{related to: https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg581456/#msg581456}
          Wesley
            Wesley's wife _{- educated in art of psychology.}

[adrouk]

Clearly I have a different approach, I won't provide any explanation for a device as why is working or not in terms of mainstream science. So I will avoid technically language as much as possible. It will be just build description eventually some I/O presented.

Experiment rather than theory. Open source rather than patent, where patent way is just way to failure of mass production of fe/ou devices as gov&bigoilco is watching and plenty individuals are paid just to twist the truth.
So, no need to validate reports with sophisticated technical wording as, those educated in the art will understand from first sight, while opening the way for everyone.

We know very well dear stivep your desire to hide and shelf anything in this field from public enquiry and your approach against sharing the knowledge. We know as well that you are in the favour to reduce the mainstream science to the role of being a guardian of gov/bigoilco instead of benefit for all who pay real social cost and/or contribute to their budget.
And yes, you twist the truth almost in every post you make, inserting your malefic allusions trying to create smoke and mirrors at all time.

If you have in your hands a working device, you don't care whatever mainstream science is telling you why it won't work. We have a lot of people with excellent build skills and most of the are deceived by devices like Kapagen, Don Smith etc where they are constantly throw on false path by many benevolent individuals from mainstream science.

Also, as long as no major player is interested anymore in any brevet or patent that isn't made in their own labs and constantly bough and shelved if any breakthrough from other source, while those major players maintain and force dependency on the grid we MUST avoid any patent office as they will kill inventions or even ban them and force inventors to surrender their work stoping under threat of being jailed.

So, Don Smith work was just a start and was enough to open the eyes for many.

In this way we move the "battle" from knowledge to production, where manufacturers will play a major role and not the grid and associates, while inventors and innovators can make their living with practical solutions at speed. Also, leave the mainstream science to harvest what they sow by siding with gov/bigoilco, or come clean in front of everyone and fit for purpose.

Yet, we have plenty "man with an soldering iron" that already built cheap devices and solutions with extremely low level expenses to replace existing domestic power and keep for the moment everything in place in our homes. Also I can recommend shielding from emp for stockpile to easy and fast replace if the other "guy with a van" decide to take a ride on someone's order.

Soon enough we will witness more and more people sharing their working devices including devices that devices presented as working but inefficient to worth building (as concluded by some) as is the case for many even on this forum.

It is time for open eyes and embrace the change.   

[listener192]

Clearly I have a different approach, I won't provide any explanation for a device as why is working or not in terms of mainstream science. So I will avoid technically language as much as possible. It will be just build description eventually some I/O presented.

Experiment rather than theory. Open source rather than patent, where patent way is just way to failure of mass production of fe/ou devices as gov&bigoilco is watching and plenty individuals are paid just to twist the truth.
So, no need to validate reports with sophisticated technical wording as, those educated in the art will understand from first sight, while opening the way for everyone.

We know very well dear stivep your desire to hide and shelf anything in this field from public enquiry and your approach against sharing the knowledge. We know as well that you are in the favour to reduce the mainstream science to the role of being a guardian of gov/bigoilco instead of benefit for all who pay real social cost and/or contribute to their budget.
And yes, you twist the truth almost in every post you make, inserting your malefic allusions trying to create smoke and mirrors at all time.

If you have in your hands a working device, you don't care whatever mainstream science is telling you why it won't work. We have a lot of people with excellent build skills and most of the are deceived by devices like Kapagen, Don Smith etc where they are constantly throw on false path by many benevolent individuals from mainstream science.

Also, as long as no major player is interested anymore in any brevet or patent that isn't made in their own labs and constantly bough and shelved if any breakthrough from other source, while those major players maintain and force dependency on the grid we MUST avoid any patent office as they will kill inventions or even ban them and force inventors to surrender their work stoping under threat of being jailed.

So, Don Smith work was just a start and was enough to open the eyes for many.

In this way we move the "battle" from knowledge to production, where manufacturers will play a major role and not the grid and associates, while inventors and innovators can make their living with practical solutions at speed. Also, leave the mainstream science to harvest what they sow by siding with gov/bigoilco, or come clean in front of everyone and fit for purpose.

Yet, we have plenty "man with an soldering iron" that already built cheap devices and solutions with extremely low level expenses to replace existing domestic power and keep for the moment everything in place in our homes. Also I can recommend shielding from emp for stockpile to easy and fast replace if the other "guy with a van" decide to take a ride on someone's order.

Soon enough we will witness more and more people sharing their working devices including devices that devices presented as working but inefficient to worth building (as concluded by some) as is the case for many even on this forum.

It is time for open eyes and embrace the change.   

Why do you think patents will suppress developing technologies?
It did not suppress the development of the solar cell and now we have viable solar panels providing free energy.
Patents are also not suppressing the devopment of higher and higher efficiency solar cells.


The reason the stated overunity energy devices do not achieve granted patents, is because their inventors are unable to demonstrate to a scientific peer group and the patent office, that they function according to their stated description.






L192

[adrouk]

Why do you think patents will suppress developing technologies?
It did not suppress the development of the solar cell and now we have viable solar panels providing free energy.
Patents are also not suppressing the devopment of higher and higher efficiency solar cells.


The reason the stated overunity energy devices do not achieve granted patents, is because their inventors are unable to demonstrate to a scientific peer group and the patent office, that they function according to their stated description.
L192

First of all, when you go to any patent office there is a list they need to consult from gov and military, if intended patent will touch any of their interest aka, possible disrupting national/international economy all files and materials will be confiscated and inventor baned from further research with patent denied.

Second, if indeed the invention is ou or fe exploited at low level, bigoilco will buy it and toss. Just to maintain dependency on the grid.

Your example with solar and eolian systems is just what they doing by allow it where we have most unreliable weather dependant harvest of energy, while showing dependency of the grid is the only solution. They let it go in the open to make clear that possible decoupling from the grid comes at some indecent price ... huge investment in power banks with excessive cost for replacement at set intervals despite cheap easy to achieve unmetered energy.

Just think who is the biggest supplier of oil and gas and why their counterparts aren't bothered, when all of them work hand in hand to keep their status on world stage at the expenses of everyone.

Just try to see if there is any pattern of who inventors of devices and theories evolved after their public release  ... N Tesla,Stan Meyer, J Newman, Arie Melis deGeus, and many other.

My advice is to avoid any patent office as they are a death trap. Build and use while share setup is the best approach imho ... and might keep you alive and well to enjoy ou/fe.

Once everything is in the open and large mass usage is happening it won't be any problem to patent again.

[rakarskiy]

 
adrouk you are wrong a patent is a document that gives copyright to a utility model, technology and so on. A patent can be an authorization of the author to freely use his invention. And many utility models, we learn from patents. The fact that the system closes many inventions and technologies is not a secret, but this is only the details of the system.
You can first present, make a similar instruction of your invention and only then file a patent application, which requires funding from your side. There is also the option of free publications, demonstrations of your invention. What can you demonstrate? And where can I see it? Hippolyte Pixie and unknown P.M. invented and built their generators in 1832, after Michael Faraday invented and published his inventions. 
Secondly, without elementary knowledge of electrical engineering, physics, metalworking, other related specialties, skills of design, manufacture and operation - a "handy soldering iron holder" can use his soldering iron only for heating his anus, thus injuring himself and blaming the manufacturer of the soldering iron for his injury.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/02/over-unity-system.html

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/overunity-holcomb-energy-system.html