Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

[listener192]

All patents go through the application phase, why do you think that no one has managed to replicate a working device from these applications?


I have tried hundreds of replications over 30 years and have not seen a glimmer of one device performing as stated.


Having test equipment commensurate to the task is essential, particulary with pulsed systems, so you don't mislead yourself.


To achieving a working device is much, much harder than most people realise and there are even few mainstream engineers out there that have chosen an MSc/PhD thesis based on some of theses devices, even though that is risky i.e. going against your professors primary field of interest however, the concusions are always the same... the devices dont work.


This doesn't mean that I don't believe a working device is possible.


Regarding your list of inventors...


Stanley Meyer
Convicted in court for investor fraud.
He died of a brain aneurysm.
I had a major brain hemorrhage several years ago. This type kills about 72% of patients so I was lucky to survive with relatively minor limb function loss.
One cause is undiagnosed Amyloid angiopathy, which they scan for as part of the investigation.
Not the cause for mine which was high BP.
The point of this is, that an aneurysm can happen apparently out of the blue, sad but explainable.


Joseph Newman
After unsucessful patent applications, a judge ordered Newman's machine to be tested by the National Bureau of Standards (NBS). The National Bureau of Standards (NBS), now known as the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), by request of the patent office, tested the device for several months and got negative results. In every case presented in the NBS report, the output power was less than power input from the battery pack, and therefore the efficiency was less than 100%. The court therefore upheld the rejection of the patent application.
Newman argued that he had been mistreated by the patent office, and tried to have his motor legalized directly by the US Congress. He obtained a hearing on 30 July 1986 in front of several senators, but he was unsuccessful. During the hearing, Newman refused to have the machine tested by independent experts, and senator John Glenn pointed out that his supposedly independent expert actually had a prior business relationship with him.
The case is now cited in the USPTO's Manual of Patent Examining Procedure as an example of an "inoperative" invention that can't have any utility, concretely as a perpetual motion machine.
In August 2007 the Alabama Securities Commission issued a cease and desist order to the "Newman Energy Corporation", alleging it had sold unregistered stock in the company.
Newman died in 2015 aged 78, of natural causes. This is in the normal ball park for his generation.


Arie Melis deGeus
I dont think there was anything particulary fraudulent regarding his work, so I assume your assumption was that he was assasinated.
DeGeus was found slumped in his car in the long term parking area of the airport, totally unresponsive. He was rushed to the hospital, and was pronounced dead very quickly.The resulting autopsy indicated heart failure, and thus concluded "death from natural causes". 
DeGeus was 45 which although young, it  is in the ball park for undiagnosed heart disease resulting in heart attacks.


L192

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Shall we extend the list with Kapanadze and Adrian Gruscha , sparky Floyd, Mooray ? Even in facts presented is just one side view (most convenient for authorities obviously).

Needless to say that I have no trust whatsoever in any gov anywhere anymore, nor their institutions that only certify themselves

Although is just my opinion on how to protect yourself when your device/claim go against every major player in energy grid generation and avoid all or most consequences. Also, is consistent with open source full disclosure forum policy 

I would like to see some possible scenarios if few thousands of devices will start to be shown working next day ? What position will take gov and major energy generation companies or even army ? How it will look to have these devices in the open, with no connection to the grid nor using restricted materials ?

[listener192]

Sparky Sweet was in his 80's when he died in 1988, with a well established heart condition.
His VTA was only ever demonstrated on his lab bench to people that were advocates of alternative energy i.e. reputational enhancements among the peer group!
Where was the scientific accredited body examination?
No replication attempt has shown a glimmer of working.



Thomas Henry Moray died in 1974, at age 82.
Yes I have read the stories about Moray and the patent office, the main objection from the UPTO being "so where is the energy coming from". With no explanation forthcoming from Moray, nor a working demonstration to the patent examiner, the outcome was not surprising.


Regarding all the alleged attempts on his life and the alleged communist plots in the 1940's, Where are all the police reports?


So much folklore surrounding these people but no working examples of their work in evidence today.




L192

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[adrouk]

Sparky Sweet was in his 80's when he died in 1988, with a well established heart condition.
His VTA was only ever demonstrated on his lab bench to people that were advocates of alternative energy i.e. reputational enhancements among the peer group!
Where was the scientific accredited body examination?
No replication attempt has shown a glimmer of working.

Thomas Henry Moray died in 1974, at age 82.
Yes I have read the stories about Moray and the patent office, the main objection from the UPTO being "so where is the energy coming from". With no explanation forthcoming from Moray, nor a working demonstration to the patent examiner, the outcome was not surprising.


Regarding all the alleged attempts on his life and the alleged communist plots in the 1940's, Where are all the police reports?


So much folklore surrounding these people but no working examples of their work in evidence today.


L192

Yep, all them ordinary fake, no need for mainstream science to bother, all were scammers showing off magic tricks ... yet, some private companies benefit from most of this fakes using design or theories.

Just because inventors don't want any of those academia to analayse their work 🤣

That's the best attitude  ... picture all them as snake oil salesman than steal and use for free their work.
Must be really infantile if you have a working device, to go to the office patent if someone expect the inventor to teach them new things that might be adverse to what mainstream science allow to exist.

If you send a working device, they only need to measure input and output to have the patent granted, not to spend years to teach hardheaded. It is inventor choice to disclose their theories or not especially when going against what is called mainstream science.

It seems that they learned a good lesson after Tesla won in court over Marconi, that's why they not going to allow anything in the open. More than that, USPTO require all specific details to be removed from the patent .. see all letters sent to Arie deGeus.

I'm still confident that building devices and spread them all over the world will change this crap or will lead to a new Inquisition to be instated. Build and use, show recommendations and full instructions for build and use and let all academia to figure out what's going on.

When I'm about to build a device I only take in account what input I can use and what is desired output in a specific form ... I really don't care what other scientific corp might think about as long as I'm not using any restricted materials ... and outside are plenty people who start to do it ike this after all the abuse and being treated as scammers. And repurpose for old things works best with low cost investment.