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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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Ufopolitics

Here is the Explanation to previous FIG #23:


FIG. 23 is a diagram which depicts an exemplary four-pole rotor 91 along with its excitation circuit, consistent with embodiments of the present disclosure. The four pole rotor wound salient pole #1 in each group is connected to a MOSFET circuit from an excitation system in control panel 72. The wound salient poles are grouped into four magnetic pole groups, including group #1 (poles 1-4), group #2 (poles 5-8), group #3 (poles 9-12) and group #4 (poles 13-16). The poles are excited as follows: Pole 1 of group #1 is a first polarity and pole 1 of group #2 is a second polarity. Pole 1 of group #3 is a first polarity and pole 1 of group #4 is a second polarity. Pole 1 of each group is excited by a common channel #1 (CH1) of a solid state excitation system housed in control panel 72. Pole 2 of each group is excited by an exciter board channel #2 (CH2). Pole 3 of each group is excited by an exciter board channel #3 (CH3), and pole 4 of each group is excited by an exciter board channel #4 (CH4). The power to excite the salient poles is taken from battery 36 through conductors 35 into exciter system 34. The control signals for the exciter system are sent from PLC 32 through conductors 33. Commands to PLC 32 are generated in control panel 72. The poles are excited through conductors 37 and 38. The pole ads 39, 40, 41, and 42 are connected to conductors 38 in appropriate locations. This numbering scheme is representative for all poles 1-16. Pole 1 of each group is excited and, for example, 2.084 milliseconds later, pole 2 of each group is excited; and for example, 2.804 milliseconds later, pole 3 is excited; and for example, 2.084 milliseconds later, pole 4 is excited; and, for example, 2.084 milliseconds later, pole 1 is excited again but in a second polarity, and the cycle repeats continuously. The pole circuits are excited with a first polarity DC power in the first half cycle and a second polarity DC power in the second half cycle. The first and second half cycle makes up one AC power cycle every 16.667 milliseconds in the case of 60 Hz electric power. Appropriate adjustments are made in the control system for other frequencies such as 50 Hz electric power. For 60 Hz power each pole is excited, for example 4.167 milliseconds with, for example, a 4.167 millisecond collapse time for the magnetic salient pole iron. The excitation wave progresses clockwise with the magnetic flux of each pole being distorted in a clockwise fashion by the previous like magnetic pole. Therefore the discrete rotor pole made up of four salient pole pieces at any one point in time progresses clockwise due to the repelling flux of the preceding salient pole. This in effect constantly pushes discrete separated magnetic poles in a clockwise circular fashion at the desired frequency. The poles are separated and alternate first polarity and second polarity. The four discrete magnetic poles continue to rotate without physical rotation of the rotor member itself.




Also, in FIG # 53 (Loaded here) We can see a part of Circuit dedicated to a POLE SWITCHING BOARD


As in FIG # 54 is the Circuit dedicated to EXCITATION BOARD


Explanation of FIG 53 & 54:


FIG. 53 is a depiction of an exemplary circuit diagram of PLC circuit and pole switching circuits, consistent with embodiments of the present disclosure. FIG. 54 is a depiction of an exemplary circuit diagram revealing circuits of a rotor excitation system and an interaction with PLC and pole switching circuits, consistent with embodiments of the present disclosure. These two figures will be explained together.[0199] The programmable electronic logic gating system of the present disclosure allows sequencing of the alternating salient magnetic poles of the system. The system is diagrammatically presented in FIGS. 53 and 54. Upon receiving a signal from a frequency generator, such as a sensor wheel 240 or a solid-state frequency generator, the circuit in FIG. 53 generates a DC rotor excitation pulse. The circuit in FIG. 54 receives the pulse generated in the circuit in FIG. 53 for gating the north-south salient poles of the rotor. In the case of a 4-pole, 60 Hz generator, the cycle is 16.667 milliseconds or one 180.degree. rotation with a half cycle 8.333 milliseconds north and 8.333 milliseconds south. In the case of the rotating sensor wheel, 90.degree. equates to 8.333 milliseconds, 180.degree. equates to 16.667 milliseconds and 67.5.degree. equates to 6.250 milliseconds.[0200] The exemplary MOSFET PLC system allows sequencing of the alternating salient magnetic poles of the embodiments of the present disclosure. The sequencing for each pole is described herein. The excitation cycle for each salient pole through a complete north/south cycle is controlled by two channels of the PLC. The sensor wheel 240 in FIG. 53 rotates at 1800 rpm in the case of a 3-phase four pole 60 Hz generator. The sensor wheel may be replaced by a frequency generator set at 1800 signals per minute or other appropriate speeds. The sensor wheel opening passes through the sensor 241 and a signal is generated when the system is turned on by the on/off switch 236 of a HMI (Human Machine Interface). The DC pulsed signal is sent to the first and second channels of PLC 239 through conduit 242. PLC CH1 controls the signal to the excitation board through conduits 244 and 243. PLC CH2 controls the signal to the pole switching board through conduits 231 and 245.[0201] The excitation is transmitted to the excitation board and enters the circuit through contact block 277 (FIG. 54). The signals control MOSFET gates 272 and 269. The MOSFET gates 272 and 269 have 12+ volts, for example, of DC power current on them constantly to maintain the gates closed. The default position for these gates is open. The PLC CH1 and CH2 turn the DC current off of the MOSFET for 135.degree. and 180.degree., for example, of rotation respectively at 1800 rpm of signal speed and allows the gate to open for 135.degree. of rotation in the case of CH1 and 180.degree. of rotation in CH2 which allows current to be routed in the case of CH1 through conduits 279 and 273 to contact block 278. Contact block 278 has four contact points referred to here as contacts C#1, C#2, A#1 and A#2. Jumper connections connect contact C#1 block 278 to contact 213 on the pole switching board. Jumper connections connect contact A#1 block 278 to contact 214 on pole switching board. Jumper connections connect contact A#2 block 278 to contact 215 on pole switching board. Jumper connections connect contact C#2 block 278 to contact 216 on pole switching board. These circuits provide a timed alternating pulse of DC, current (for example, 20 volts and 6 amps) to the two sides of pole switching board. PLC channel #2 sends signal to MOSFET gates 209 and 225 on pole switching board to open for 180.degree. through conduit 245 to the first side and 231 to the second side.




Cheers...it is not that complicated... ;D



Ufopolitics


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pmgr

@Ufopolitics et al


Some points I would like to make:


1. The driver circuits that are in that particular patent are nothing special as far as I can tell (correct me if I am wrong). It's a simple bidirectional coil driver (similar to what a bidirectional motor driver looks like). Nevertheless, from his patents (and I have read all of the most relevant ones now) it appears Holcom doesn't understand where his excess energy is coming from, repeatedly stating electron spin in electrical steel, high permittivity etc as the explanation. That is not the cause, as we know it takes energy (B*H which is the area under the hysteresis curve) to magnetize and demagnetize material and there is no gain in that). But maybe he states that because he really doesn't know and probably had to give some explanation in the patent (after all he is not an electrical engineer; I believe was a medical doctor in the past). Looking at how detailed his patents are, I don't believe he is deliberately steering someone in the wrong direction.


2. If you take a look at the old Pierre Cotnoir's DZ generator threads, you will see Pierre was using a similar scheme of a rotating magnetic field generated by DC currents, but with relays instead of FETs. Although Pierre's device seemed to work from his videos, nobody has been able to replicate it.


3. I believe that the reason that Holcombs device works is because he has found a way to circumvent BEMF from coupling back into the rotor driving coils. I am not so sure if he actually understands that that is what he has done as he keeps on stating no BEMF because the rotor is fixed, but that's not the reason why it works. The reason it works is because the BEMF is diverted and doesn't make its way back to the driving coils. I will need to confirm what I think is happening with some calculations to be 100% sure, but based on what I can picture in my head so far, it should work that way.


Lastly, with respect to noise on this thread, indeed a lot of random noise (no need to state a name here) so I am all for a moderated thread. But please don't censor anyone if they have a different opinion or shoot down someone else's explanation with sound reasoning. A healthy discussion benefits all as long as it is polite and explained with reasoning (so no name calling, insults and things of that sort please).


My two cents, PmgR

ramset



Pmgr
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Lastly, with respect to noise on this thread, indeed a lot of random noise (no need to state a name here) so I am all for a moderated thread. But please don't censor anyone if they have a different opinion or shoot down someone else's explanation with sound reasoning. A healthy discussion benefits all as long as it is polite and explained with reasoning (so no name calling, insults and things of that sort please).


My two cents, PmgR
End quote


Sir
When a builder ( man or woman) takes the time and all associated personal costs
To share their work ,it can try the best of persons to endure "noise" at the build site (thread)!


It might be a good idea to have a general topic alongside the build topic ( for noise and even theorists etc etc
It has been my experience that those builders with deeper knowledge... who actually decide to build ... have done all the
Vetting and diligence to their own satisfaction !


However, the beauty of working open source leads to a larger talent footprint
And typically that can be amazing if nurtured ( polite , respectful etc etc environment)


So for clarity
no biting ..closed fist punches, nothing below the belt
Definitely no eye gouging.....


All kidding aside
Respectful discussions must always be the standard we strive to !


Gonna be interesting indeed !
Here is one topic which will hopefully start soon( link below) !
Perhaps _this _ thread can be the general  non builder discussion thread ? ( this unmoderated thread I am typing in now)


https://overunity.com/19074/builders-investigation-into-things-that-spin-with-gain-and-other/msg564943/#new


Respectfully
Chet K









Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Ufopolitics

Quote from: pmgr on March 24, 2022, 04:00:02 PM
@Ufopolitics et al


Some points I would like to make:


1. The driver circuits that are in that particular patent are nothing special as far as I can tell (correct me if I am wrong). It's a simple bidirectional coil driver (similar to what a bidirectional motor driver looks like). Nevertheless, from his patents (and I have read all of the most relevant ones now) it appears Holcom doesn't understand where his excess energy is coming from, repeatedly stating electron spin in electrical steel, high permittivity etc as the explanation. That is not the cause, as we know it takes energy (B*H which is the area under the hysteresis curve) to magnetize and demagnetize material and there is no gain in that). But maybe he states that because he really doesn't know and probably had to give some explanation in the patent (after all he is not an electrical engineer; I believe was a medical doctor in the past). Looking at how detailed his patents are, I don't believe he is deliberately steering someone in the wrong direction.


2. If you take a look at the old Pierre Cotnoir's DZ generator threads, you will see Pierre was using a similar scheme of a rotating magnetic field generated by DC currents, but with relays instead of FETs. Although Pierre's device seemed to work from his videos, nobody has been able to replicate it.


3. I believe that the reason that Holcombs device works is because he has found a way to circumvent BEMF from coupling back into the rotor driving coils. I am not so sure if he actually understands that that is what he has done as he keeps on stating no BEMF because the rotor is fixed, but that's not the reason why it works. The reason it works is because the BEMF is diverted and doesn't make its way back to the driving coils. I will need to confirm what I think is happening with some calculations to be 100% sure, but based on what I can picture in my head so far, it should work that way.


Lastly, with respect to noise on this thread, indeed a lot of random noise (no need to state a name here) so I am all for a moderated thread. But please don't censor anyone if they have a different opinion or shoot down someone else's explanation with sound reasoning. A healthy discussion benefits all as long as it is polite and explained with reasoning (so no name calling, insults and things of that sort please).


My two cents, PmgR


Hello PmgR,


Well, I have being working (not full time though) on this same theory for a few years back...and the basic downfall of this kind of systems is when we accelerate the fields rotation...at least that is where I noticed some failure...but, I was using a similar type of driver as Clemente Figuera did on his 1908 Patent...
The failure being that fields do get to the desired speed, but Induced Voltage will drop as Amperage will rise above Input, in many amps above unity.
I have built two drivers, of which the second one I have not being able to test it....just because I was going to mount all coils in a Toroidal Core...I got the core(s), got the wire but never wound them...


The second driver I have built does not rotates DC Magnetic Fields but it reverses Field Polarization with the same +/- feed...and driven by a small dc motor...which onlky uses like 12V and milliamps.


This reversal scenario I was trying to mimic what takes place at high speed in a Generator Rotor...We get "Flashes" of fully developed fields which reverses every certain angle...mine was set to do it at 180º, just like a typical two pole house generator.


Anyways, I agree as I disagree that driver is just a bidirectional motor drive...maybe for just one chanel...but eight chanels?
Plus all this FET's are base driven by a PLC or Programable Logic Circuit, which gets the commands from a Control Panel...so, IMO it is not just a simple Motor driver...


As I have mentioned before...the failure here is at higher speeds...and reading the patent you see it is very well detailed at specific On and Off timings at the milliseconds ratings...which makes it very precise due to the accuracy of its micro processors in the logic controls...


Unfortunately I never got to watch the Pierre Cotnoir videos...as He took them all off by now...


I believe, that once we get these machines running, Lenz will not apply here...since there is no steel mass rotation present...and about BEMF, maybe you are right...and because it is diverged it also do not work here...


One thing that caught my attention about this patent...are the way the rotor core is wound...not overlapping coils, but winding each pole independent from the other...just like a BLDC Motor, I guess that is  a more effective way when it comes to faster on-off fields or reversing their polarity...


In general speaking...related to Dr Holcomb, not being an Engineer...well, I believe while he was designing his therapy magnetic equipments...He stomped into a phenomena, along with his team of engineers developing this machines...and it worked.


In History we can find a couple of doctors, who made incredible discoveries...some were seized...others mysteriously dissapeared...Dr Rife (Cancer Cure) and the other one that used also some magnetic frequencies through some copper rings machine to heal his patients...do not remember his name now...sorry.




Cheers




Ufopolitics



Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
―Leonardo da Vinci