Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

[ramset]

Thanks to Stefan for moving topic to a moderated section
We did make it for a long time here without the need !


I believe Jimboot might be helping a bit with this topic's focus !
As a builder...Hopefully he will make a few suggestions towards
That focus !( it is very early in OZ at the moment 1AM Jimboot time)
Respectfully
Chet K

[Cadman]

In regards to using a 4 pole 3 phase motor as the basis of a HES build I would like to point out something important I think has been left out of the considerations so far.

That is the magnetic circuit.

The pictures and discussions that I have seen so far are all about using an inner rotor and outer stator, which would have the flux projecting from the rotor across the stator and back to the rotor just as in an ordinary motor or generator. That does not seem to be the correct configuration.

Looking at International Publication Number WO 2021/063522 A1 which is also International Application Number PCT/EP2019/076967 reveals a 3 part construction. Rotor - stator - outer rotor with the flux being returned via cross members at each end to the center shaft of the inner rotor.

That would have the flux passing straight through the stator from inside to outside and returning through the center shaft instead of looping through and across the stator right back to the rotor.
That would make a considerable difference in the action of the flux rotation through the stator.

As support for this I have attached 4 figures from the application.

Figure 1
end view of rotor laminate revealing salient pole pieces and flux sleeve

Figure 4
solid state rotor ... as well as a flux return insert (Item 130)

Figure 48
rotor laminate fully wound
Notice the flux return crossmember. The X.

Figure 49
illustrating a stator and rotor hookup.
Shows the stator and outer rotor.

[bistander]

Interesting. I do not see the outer 'rotor'. Also, the X cross member and 'inner rotor' teeth roots are apparently way to thin or too small in cross sectional area to be of much use as main magnetic circuit path considering the apparent area of the main air gap(s).

Also, the diagram of wound 'rotor' has 3 devices connected. This is quite different from earlier versions showing those coils being sequence switched from a power supply. Things keep changing. Can you provide a link to the diagram source.
edit. I see the link. 161 pages. That will take awhile.

Nice to see some analysis. Thanks.
bi

[Cadman]

Interesting. I do not see the outer 'rotor'. Also, the X cross member and 'inner rotor' teeth roots are apparently way to thin or too small in cross sectional area to be of much use as main magnetic circuit path considering the apparent area of the main air gap(s).

Also, the diagram of wound 'rotor' has 3 devices connected. This is quite different from earlier versions showing those coils being sequence switched from a power supply. Things keep changing. Can you provide a link to the diagram source.

Nice to see some analysis. Thanks.
bi

It's all in the patent application attached to my previous post. It's a big document, 14 MB.
In the application, he jumps around with different embodiments, a little confusing. The figure descriptions are at the beginning of the application document.
The outer rotor is visible as a narrow region next to the outer case. Fig 49 is described as a stator and rotor.

The size of the cross member was a concern to me too, but who knows, maybe a portion of the flux is routed through those. The pics on his web site have pretty substantial cross members and two of them together could possibly equal the cross section of the steel stator pole(s).

Edit: Remember he always describes the inducing flux as relatively weak.

[Ufopolitics]

Hello to All,

That previous post from member rebar, where he posted what someone (I believe his name was Bill)...was removed...
and I was getting ready to answer on that.
Besides calling Holcomb's a "scam", which is the only part on that post that I can see as "offensive" or "Difamatory"...He had some good points which were completely debatable and refutable...at least from my end...

He mentioned that "People on YouTube" are doing tests with cheap meters (not True RMS) which tends to give wrong or off readings, which leads to wrong conclusions, etc,etc...That could be true...

However, ALL my Meters are True RMS, my recent Amp Probes Clamps are TEKTRONIX, A622, NOT Generic Cheap ones, but the Originals...and they go from $375 to $390 USD...Not cheap at all!!

Anyways, IMHO, I believe we can NOT just behave like all of these other sites do, but in the opposite way...being kind of RADICALS about posts that are not all "liking" Holcomb...

Any NEW TECHNOLOGY will ALWAYS FACE OPPOSED FORCES to fight against...and that is the reason why we are all here...to explain where mistakes are, where wrong conceptions are...and where they are doing wrong analysis...

Also, I have refuted here, that the so called "Increase" in Output is not due to any "Electric Steel" magnification...since it has been done ever since the first Generator was built!!!

And please do not take me wrong, I know Steel DOES INCREASE, AMPLIFY MAG FIELDS, but NEVER to the point to use it as an explanation/justification for ANY OU Device!!

Also, It is NOT due to any "Electron Spin" at all...as Bill mentioned, and He is completely right on that!!...the electrons would then be "exhausted at certain point...and then "KABUUM" no more energy.

There is absolutely NO Electron Spin in ANY Magnetic Field on Earth!!!
Magnetic Fields DO EXCITE Electron Spins resulting in an ELECTRIC FLOW, within the Coil's wires or conductors, whenever moved through SPACE/TIME, PERIOD!!
That was proven by Faraday on the 1800's!!

Magnetic Fields are NOT COMPOSED of ANY "PARTICLES" EITHER, Not Electrons, Not any "particles"!!!

Problem with Bill (the guy refuting Holcomb's Tech) is that He is "anchored" to the OLD PHYSICS BOOKS, where we have to move a HUMONGOUS MASSIVE STEEL ROTOR, in order to carry a VIRTUAL, WEIGHTLESS, MASSLESS, FRICTIONLESS SPECTRUM...which is entirely PATHETIC...
But Hey...That will be proven in full soon...

Anyways, I was thinking about coming here, and quoting just that Bill post by rebar...and respond in a very quiet, profesional and scientific way...paragraph by paragraph...plus adding some snapshots of all my equipment being all True RMS...

But now, UNFORTUNATELY I see that post is gone...

Ufopolitics