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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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SolarLab

Quote from: Ufopolitics on January 14, 2023, 02:18:19 PM
@SolarLab,

Hello friend,

I have commented way back about this explanation from HES...IMHO, it is not fully correct.

First, typical generators (ever since they were invented) do not align the steel domains "only at startup" but at all times during their operation.
Every half rotor turn (for a two pole and every 45º for four poles), or whenever they reverse their polarity (N-S) by changing rotational positioning related to stators, they are reversing all magnetic domains at steel cores on stator.

Now, the claim "Eliminating Reverse Torque" is an obvious one, since HES Generator claims after "not having any moving parts"...and torque is always a component of any existing rotational or linear displacement movement.

Resuming, even though steel does enhances and strengthtens magnetic fields, IMHO, it is not the direct and real main cause to justify the "excess power over input".

The real reason for any type of machines configuration like HES to be overunity, relies on the simple fact to spin or displace the magnetic field "virtually", not physically, meaning not involving any rotary steel and copper mass, hence, not depending on the Internal Combustion Engines any more, to rotate the weightless, massless magnetic field.

But more likely, I am very sure at HES they know all that very well, and simply because the "Saint Inquisition Laws" at the Patent Office, where it is a "Felony of Third Degree" to even mention that the ICE would be totally eliminated, and no longer required of their "services"...would be a very solid justification to deny the granting of any Patent in the USA.

Even though, the granting of all HES Patents includes a classification labeled within the "Alleged Perpetua Mobilia Status" tag.

Regards


Ufopolitics

Hi Ufopolitics,

Some of Holcomb's "one sentence" claims do appear to mask some underlying complex interactions but in a Tech Brief that's pretty common;
however many of the simple claims are pretty much just that - basic things that are straight forward.

As far as the "start up" claim, having viewed the inside of rotating generators with an array of Hall Sensors it appeared the magnetic environment
inside was, well, a mess of magnetic activity that never disappeared for a nano-second. There did appear to be a N-S pattern but it was quite
intermixed.   On the other hand, Holcomb's device (LinGen at least) has a very distinct pattern.

Your probably right about concluding there is more to the excess power than just the steel "u" and elimination of reverse torque, air, thermal and
friction drag; but eliminating these are a very big part, especially when combining their elimination efficiently.

Your postulation regarding gasoline/deisel engine "Saint Inquistion Laws" is probably a stretch. Too many recent devices involving energy have been
patented - electric cars, wind generators, solar systems, inverter power banks, wave generators and so on - all of which no longer require an ICE.

Alleged Perpetua Mobillia status tag was (and still is) a set-back and difficult to work around - but that's understandable since perpetual motion
machines likely really don't exist (except on Netflix). Atlas Shrugged didn't even use a perpetual motion machine (hydrogen based from what I
could figure out).

Anyway, which ever way you view it IMHO the HES devices will foster a whole new way of viewing future energy sources and begin a new erra of
excitement, opportunity and discovery!   I remain cautiously optomistic.
SL

Feb2006 - you point out another great advantage of the HES rotating/sliding magnetic field capability!


Ufopolitics

Quote from: bistander on January 14, 2023, 03:05:51 PM
Ufo,

Notice that the 3 wires running from the main generator armature (its stator) are dashed, indicating they are feedback to the GCU to enable voltage regulation by adjustment of the rectifier taking 3ph AC from the subexcitor armature (its stator) which delivers DC to the exciter field (its stator).
bi

Ref: https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/13/11/2696
Thanks Bi,
Ok, I see what you mean, however all my last edit was referring that the gen shown on img is based on a Three (3) Exciter levels (as written on image text.
Which includes the main Generator Rotor.

Ufopolitics
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Ufopolitics

Quote from: Feb2006 on January 14, 2023, 03:39:55 PM

It also depends on how fast you spin or displace the magnetic field "virtually".
If you do it faster than 250 times per second you get more out but it depends on the
Material if you can do it. It's like the faster you move a magnet back and forth a wire the more you get.

My ferrite core can do 100000 Hz.

Hello Feb2006,

Unfortunately it did not work like that, at least, for all the tests I have conducted.
There is a point of the virtual rotation speed/frequency where the virtual field travels too fast for the mass response to interpret and counteract(which includes steel cores plus copper wires coils)

If you have seen all the replications of Gotoluc on the Pierre Cotnoir Thread, you will also see what I mean.

But, maybe in other setups it will work as you are saying...

Cheers

Ufopolitics
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bistander

Quote from: Ufopolitics on January 15, 2023, 09:00:01 AM
Thanks Bi,
Ok, I see what you mean, however all my last edit was referring that the gen shown on img is based on a Three (3) Exciter levels (as written on image text.
Which includes the main Generator Rotor.

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

The image text, as found in the reference, is:
QuoteFigure 1. The brushless synchronous generator—based on a three-stage electrical machine topology: the subexciter—permanent magnet generator (PMG); the brushless exciter—synchronous machine with stationary field winding, rotating armature winding and rotating diode rectifier; the main generator—synchronous machine with rotating field winding; GCU—generator control unit.

You can see it states "three-stage electrical machine topology", not 3stage exciter. There are only two exciter levels, subexciter and exciter. The main generator field is not considered an "exciter" in customary terminology. The main generator has an armature and a field, stator and rotor, either can be either. The subexciter and exciter are each a generator in themselves, whose purpose is to excite (meaning to power or supply current to) the field of the main generator.
bi

Ufopolitics

Quote from: bistander on January 15, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
Hi Ufo,
You can see it states "three-stage electrical machine topology", not 3stage exciter. There are only two exciter levels, subexciter and exciter. The main generator field is not considered an "exciter" in customary terminology. The main generator has an armature and a field, stator and rotor, either can be either. The subexciter and exciter are each a generator in themselves, whose purpose is to excite (meaning to power or supply current to) the field of the main generator.
bi

Ok, thks Bi,

I see it is all about "customary terminology", plus of course, the way I interpret it...
However, I will reinforce my point over the whole thing here...the most important part that I have primarily meant on that post.
Main point here is:

We* have being doing it wrong, by sending the pulsed signals, whether AC Three Phase or with my rotary switch, to generate a Virtual Field Rotation of just the Magnetic Field directly from our PSU's (or from the rectifier stage on image) to the inner generator static rotor...without an existing exciter system stage built "in between".

And when I say "We*" am referring to all attempts (by everyone who has done it) to make this happen "in our history"...So it starts from Figuera, to Pierre Cotnoir...and including myself, on all my replications of Figuera plus the ones I have been conducting lately, in similarity to HES Tech and my own, way before HES came to public domain, which are based on, exactly, the same principle of operation.

Now, I have no idea if HES is doing it with Exciters in actual devices being developed and tested, at least I have not seen it on any of his Patents...unless I have missed that part.
And, please, to all reading this, correct me if I am wrong about it.

Thanks

Ufopolitics
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