Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

[ramset]

Listener192
Your attempts and efforts here and on other open source projects
Have been amazing over the years


As have many here ( will try to touch base with a few other builders from topic )


One thing is certain,a simple FE device will never be bound by patents
Like trying to patent sunshine or fresh air
And this Holcomb claim is simple at its roots (CLAIM)


Would be the most horrible thing to do to our planet !
It is our destiny to have FE
Ready or not...

[Fabon]

  Passively waiting, who don't try and try to move their brains, will never wait for FE from other active inventors! This is exactly what they need to memorize very well! No one will bring them a ready-made sandwich on a plate! 

[lancaIV]

listener192,
when You study the by WIPO/PCT published applications You will see granted,but not approved ' utility model'-application ( to see by given number),approved and grant denied ' technical standart'-applications,applications in approvement phase ,the denying or grant can be an up to ten years process !
Classified inventions,not to see in the archive,when later published ,up to 30 years and more NDA act,get their comercial validation priority date by the first day after publication !

A granted technical patent national/international is non valid,if the claim was before openly published somewhere global !The WIPO can not give the warranty that the approvement was perfect !
Btw : a WIPO-tribunal in existence for non/wrong granted decisions !

Each project can be for investors a timely fiasco,the patent pending time phase is 2 years long !

After this non granted phase each one worldwide can apply the given information,legal !
There are patent rights,and there are patents obligations !
And by many US-granted applications to see : EP grant denied,withdrawn !
There is not a grant-automatism !
And the EP-office deny gives retrospectively the possibility to recuse the US-grant act in US patent tribunal !


wmbr
OCWL

[ramset]

Sir Fabon
Respectfully
You could not be more wrong !


3 billion persons on planet don't have a light switch or a clean drink of water
It will be served on a silver platter once found..


It is our destiny

Edit for lanca retort post 2994


Perhaps everything is fine at your house lanca
Next time better to just write
LET THEM EAT CAKE


Yeesh

[listener192]

ramset,


Thank you for your kind words.


Apart from testing my own ideas, I have attempted many expired patent replications over the years and never achieved a positive result.
Of course these have never directly claimed O.U. (as they never would have been granted). So if nothing else it confirmed in my own mind that many people would patent an idea even if it didnt work.


Also there is another group of inventors that have patented an idea and built a working model that is some cases appears to demonstrate certainly a large improvment in generator efficiency but still there is no commercial uptake, either via their own finance, or outside investment.   


The Holcomb device seems to have evoked an emotional support of their claims from some on this forum.
Hypothetically if an individual were to demonstrate a technically strong replication of their stand alone device, that showed conclusively that it did not work as advertised, I think there would be an outcry from believers that it wasn't a faithful replication, or even that the individual had deliberately engineered a result to show that it didn't work. 


I don't think I have ever seen such a reaction to a device before.


Perhaps the apparent openess of Holcomb re their web presentations is responsible for this almost religious following.


Regards


L192