Just another Don Smith thread

[nix85]

I love how this PERFECTLY exemplifies what happens when someone makes claims about things he has no understanding of.

Mind IS thinking, thinking is always in time, it IS time.

Mind (time) is an effect produced when awareness which is always in perfect now spreads out into illusory polarity of past and future, trains of thought always coming from the "past" flowing into the "future". It is just a tool, a calculator, a cutting knife, it has no life of it's own, no will of it's own, it does not even exist except as an polarized vibratory illusion. It is an effect, not the cause.

Soul is the cause, the experiencer at the points of STILL-NESS.

Also, as i said before, there is vibration, music BEYOND Mind (time), this is very important to grasp to discern that Mind is literally just an illusion produced by awareness spread out into polarity of non-existing past and non-existing future.

You may visualize it in the following way, imagine that whole creation is a 2D gigantic image constituted of tiny Kodak films spread out. You can see the whole picture at once, this is your perfect now outside the illusion of time, you can as well focus/narrow your attention on a particular spot on the image and move this ray of attention which creates the illusion of linear time.

It is YOU, who have confused basic CAUSE and EFFECT.

Musical scale as it is with 5 tones 2 semitones and 5 sharps/flats is universal, all is ultimately subjective and each experiences reality according to his own prism, but we can all agree major chord sounds happy and minor sad and when you play a white and black key you feel the discord.

John Newbrough channeled Oahspe, it's not his name.

You can call white and black compression and expansion, or order and chaos which would be equally or more accurate.

Others explained God in Scientific terms before him, Keely for example.

[nix85]

You can keep the Russell's audio lectures, they sure did not help you understand stuff

But i highly advice you to start reading Bentov, Tassel, Zirbes and others already mentioned, you might actually start to see some L I G H T

[tomd]

all folks

here's more info relating to Don 4kW device mentioned earlier in post. also see schematic attached.

here is zilano info pertaining:

"this is the simplest and working circuit i have tested and found it works best. the basic is a coil resonates when its triggered with pulsing dc at its resonant frequency specified by coil and its self capacitance. as we dont know self capacitance of a coil unless we measure it with lcr meter. so a cap is used parallel to the coil. we know inductance and cap is an oscillating circuit. it oscillates transferring oscillations to secondary. here primary is an oscillator and secondary resonate sympathetically if a matching cap is used at secondary. the two coils now resonate. feeding each other with same resonant frequency and losses compensated with spark feeding energy so its resonant oscillator. resonance produce amplification and this xtra energy is pulsed again as we did it in the primary with diode and spark gap. the traf is ferrite and the coil primary of trafo is matched with cap for 60 hz by matching capacitor so trafo primary oscillates at 50/60 hz. here spark triggers the trafo primary to make it oscillate at 60 hz. the output can be tapped at the output of secondary. here we just use overflow of resonant energy and don't use storage caps. this is simple theory and working device schematic. its a working circuit. one can use varistors to maintain desired voltage. varistors are available easily.

well nobody follow Don circuit. all people working on ou make Tesla type oscillator circuit. where as Don just want us to use pulsed dc with spark gap to trigger a coil with parallel cap. so simple. and using lengths measured before coiling can save one a lot of headache to match resonance even without using caps. but people don't see a coil can resonate AS A SINGLE ENTITY BUT EVERY COIL has parasitic or self capacitance between its turns IT ACTS AS CAPACITOR WORKING PARALLELY WITH COIL.
parasitic capacitance can be increased with pvc coated wire or spacing turns apart. but no one follows this and blame Don for cheating and lying and fake schematics etc etc. Kapandze followed Don and all the world trust him. There is no info on net how to use resonance for ou except Don documentation.
so how can kapanadze came up with ou. its becoz he followed Don. and did practical and found the basis and world wonders that kapanadze is ahead of even Tesla. SEARCH NET FOR TESLA OU DEVICE AND U WILL FIND NONE. NOT EVEN PATENTS AND NOT EVEN RARE BOOKS. coz Tesla didn't disclose the secret he left us to find out and Don did same but he gave schematics to follow. its for us to understand the puzzle that DON LEFT FOR US TO SOLVE.
ANYWAYS
I TRIED MY BEST TO IMPART MY BEST KNOWLEDGE AND PRACTICAL INFO
AND ONE WHO UNDERSTAND ME
WILL GET SURELY OU
AND FREE POWER
AS I GET

L1 is inside L2. so L2 is outer coil and L1 is inner coil. slidable.

Spark Gaps
there r two spark gaps. one at primary and one before output trafo. the first earth is a direct earth the 2nd earth is in series with 220 volt varistor. we lower volt after 2nd spark gap b4 trafo. spark gaps r open and hot and r made with steel needles pushed in a glass tube with 1 mm gap. primary cap is in pf cos smaller the cap greater is repulsive power. primary cap is charged parallely across the primary coil and spark is used to trigger primary. nst frequency is 30khz but primary oscillating frequency is in mhz and its different from nst frequency. after secondary we use a diode to make pulsing hvdc required to
trigger the ferrite trafo for 50 hz with spark gap in return wire. steps r same as done in primary to trigger oscillate the circuit.
primary 1/4L and secondary is 4L. the varistor protects overvoltage and shunts to the earth. primary and secondary air core.
nst 4kv. primary caps 8kv secondary caps 20kv.

there is a cap across L1 and also L2.

real earth ground.

well is spark firing or not? if spark firing the figure i gave will oscillate primary with parallel cap across. then tune secondary with cap. u don't have to match frequency of ur nst with primary. primary will just oscillate at its own frequency.
246/freq in mhz= length of primary (1/4 wavelength) in feet then this length will oscillate at the frequency in mhz secondary= 4x length of primary we choose frequency ourselves and higher the better.

when spark is off caps charges and when spark is on cap and inductance oscillates. well spark is like a switch a high voltage switch."

wlw

It doesn't look a lot different from the reverse tesla circuit. One is step up the other step down. Could use ideas presented here for reverse tesla. For example could I have a primary of say 16m and a cw-ccw secondary of 4m each? Hopefully do away with the caps.

Is the induction electrostatic or magnetic. I tend to think electrostatic as magnetic induction would be stronger if the primary coil was outside the secondary as the magnetic field is stronger there (tesla coil).

It's not clear from the circuit diagrams weather the spark gap is meant to fire only once to trigger resonance or fire with resonance as does a tesla coil.

[nix85]

Nix,

u have made mistake and think I am 1 w/o understanding. no surprise I disagree! 

And that is just another mistake you make, you're indeed the one without understanding.

i ask u then is a painter their painting?
is a poet their poems?
is a writer their writings?

No of course is the answer. The Creator and creation r different things.
God is Mind, and creator of Universe (creation).

So Mind is not thinking. Thinking is a product of Mind, but is not Mind itself.
Thinking is expression of IDEA of Mind. Idea is always static. Thinking is dynamic.

this is why I say u read Russell but didn't comprehend it.

Soul u say is Stillness but Mind and Soul are 1 and same.

This clearly shows you did not comprehend Russell you just blindly quote him just like you claimed female to be electric #facepalm.

You also failed to understand that the fact that Russell equates God with Mind shows he never transcended the Mind, he was not a SAT (True) Guru, one who sees beyond the black vortex of Bhanwar Gupha (top of Mind).

There are many worlds/states of sound/bliss beyond Mind (time-space), this is the ocean of love Kabir speaks about. This is NOT Mind, mind is a lower region where consciousness becomes narrowed and polarized into illusion of past and future. There are no opposites in Sach Khand. As Bob Dylan says "There are no truths outside the Gates of Eden".

Highest of those transmental worlds is called Anami Lok - meaning world/state which cannot even be named, One who is beyond all attributes and descriptions, the supreme Creator of ALL. It is stillness and it is not, it's is a paradox and it's not that either. Neti neti neti, seers of old said meaning "not this not this not this".

Mind IS thinking, the act of thinking = Mind (Time). Mind = KAL Niranjan - TIME - the 5th of 16 God's sons, father of Vishnu, creator of all the mental worlds.

Ideas belong to astral level, ideas proceed from concepts and concepts are created in the Causal Plane (the higher Mind). For example a concept of sitting down (in the Causal Plane) creates the idea of a chair (in the Astral Plane) which in turn creates all the different types of chairs made manifest in the Physical Plane. In the Causal Plane all senses (seeing, tasting...) are 1 unified sense, toward the lower planes all is spread out and separated, more and more individualized, more and more unreal.

In short, no, Mind and Soul are not 1 and same, never were never will be (time-pun intended)

u use film analogy to explain ur view but Russell used it first. Tell me have u read Atomic Suicide?
published 1957

I heard that analogy from Ishwar Puri who has probably learned it from his Guru Sawan Singh. It is actually not an analogy, it is a literal mechanism of how destinies are scattered in the sky of the Causal Plane just like movie rolls, and it is a literal mechanism how the illusion of reality is created from still pictures. We by our free will which is really the will of the One Supreme Being pick one of those films and focus on particular spot on it assuming a fake character and his/her karma, we cover ourselves with fake memories and think we have lived all those past lives and will have to live all the future lives, but truth is much stranger, i'll leave it at that.

Ask urself if Keely was right why has no1, not even expert Dale Pond been able to replicate his dynasphere or any working device? in all these years no replications... if he had answer then why still no solution?

what we r discussing cannot be won w/ polemics.
it can only be proven experimentally to verify else no1 will believe not even urself.

So, I test Russell b/c in book Atomic Suicide? WR gives us simple experiments to test and see if WR is right. u can do same if u like. 

The popular quote attributed to Tesla ""If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6, and 9, then you would have a key to the universe."" was popularized by a guy who admitted he shared it online without ever having any valid source to back it up, the real author is of course Keely who first wrote about this fundamental ratio of Triune Force flow which makes up ALL (mental) creation and reflects itself in all on all levels, from electric (male) magnetic (female) and time (neutral) axis of light to pingala (male) ida (female) sushumna (neutral-time axis) of Kundalini energies spiraling around/through your spine also reflected in 3 gunas rajas (male-active) tamas (female-passive), and sattva (neutral-balance). As Sri Krishna says in Bhagavad gita 7.14

"This divine energy of Mine, consisting of the three modes of material nature, is difficult to overcome. But those who have surrendered unto Me can easily cross beyond it."

Now that we made clear triune flow manifests in all on all (mental) levels, we can talk of Hollingshead who was probably a student of Keely as he used practically the same terminology and has replicated to an extent his work with his Odic ray, it made metals PERMANENTLY lose weight (very rare effect, usually degravitation must be sustained) aluminum 20% permanent weight loss, permanently made metals hot or cold, it has caused hard clay to explode the instant the ray touched it; rock, opaque to the eye, has been made transparent and by means of the ray, an actual photograph has been taken through a 11-1/2 inches of lead.....

So let's quote Edgar's son who was a witness and a student of his father summarizing his work

In order to overcome the force of gravity we must first make an assumption as to just what gravity is. Then working under that assumption, prove to our reason that our hypothesis is correct. Thus, I shall say that the force known as gravitation is an emanation coming from the sun.

In order that we may gain some understanding of the great force of solar energy which controls the solar system, which is necessary if we are to understand the real cause of weight in matter, let us consider the fact that reason proves to us that we cannot have a great force like gravitation coming into the earth unless there is an equal and opposite force coming out of the earth; otherwise, there would be an unbalanced condition in nature where order is the fact. Likewise, we cannot conceive of a great force like gravitation coming from no place in space, for reason prove to us that there must be some definite place for this force to come from, and also a definite place for its opposite polarity to return to. We know that the force coming from the sun manifests as light and heat, and therefore, we know that gravitation has a prepondertly [sic] positive nature; thus, reason proves to us that the force returning to the sun or the opposite polarity of gravitation must have a prepondertly [sic] negative character. This force, coming from the sun, must cross interplanetary space in the form of high etheric energy, but when this energy comes in contact with the atmosphere of the earth, it is thereby resisted and slowed down or "transformed" into electricity, light, and heat.

In order that we may realize how it is possible to develop a process by which the weight of matter can be changed, it is time, thus proving that the side of the earth that is next to the sun is receiving a greater amount of the force of gravitation than is the case with the side of the earth that is away from the sun. Therefore, the vortexual [sic] energy forming the molecules of the pendulum of the clock is not resisting as great an amount of the force of gravitation during night as it is in the daytime; thus, the pendulum is lighter and swings faster at night than it does in the daytime under the same power exerted.

In order to understand the true nature of force, we must realize that reason proves to us that mankind cannot conceive of a force unless there is something moving. If there is something moving, it must be a substance in some form, not necessarily physical matter as that term is commonly used, but a substance. Therefore, all forces of nature must have two parts, a substance and speed. With that hypothesis in mind, if we consider light as a substance with a speed of 186,000 miles per second, we know that we cannot get something from nothing; therefore, reason proves to us that electricity must also be a substance in motion. We also know that we generate electricity by what is termed cutting magnetic lines of force, which in reality is a transformation of a higher force to a slower one.

Let us stop and picture in our minds a two pole generator. Let us imagine that these two poles are tanks of water, and that the lines of force shooting from pole to pole is a stream of water. Also, that we have an armature made of screen placed between these two poles, or in the pathway of this water. Now if this screen armature is standing still it would have very little resistance to the flow of the water, but the moment we begin to rotate the armature we know that the water would pile itself up on the face of the screen; in other words, we would resist the flow of the water, and this is precisely what is being accomplished in an electric dynamo. The armature whirling in a field of force resists the substance known as magnetic energy, and this energy or substance is thereby caused to pile itself upon the face of the armature and is thereby slowed down or “transformed†into what is known as electricity.

Having proven to reason that in all force there is a substance in motion, this substance must be governed and controlled by the same principles that govern all matter throughout the universe. In other words, the substance or body of a force must be made up of minute eddies of force which correspond to the atoms of matter. This being true, these eddies of force are competent of being broken up and thereby release an energy of great potential power. Thus, by looking upon the amperage of electricity as a substance, it is possible, by mechanical methods, to break up these eddies of force forming the body of amperage of electricity and thereby release a force which corresponds to the atomic energy in matter, with this important difference however; that the speed of the energy released out of the eddies of force forming the amperage of electricity is traveling infinitely faster than is the case with the atoms forming the molecules of matter. Therefore, when this electronic energy is released from the amperage of electricity, and properly controlled and applied, it can be made to raise or lower the atomic energy in matter to any degree desired.

The resultant energy released by this process is a force that is similar in character to the X-Ray or the Radio-Active rays emanating from radium, with this important difference; its rate of vibration or speed is far greater than either of the rays mentioned. This rate can be changed, lowered, or intensified, its polarity reversed and its direction of [missing text] of this new ray can be changed all the way from where it will affect a photographic plate, the same as ordinary light, up to where it will disintegrate solid rock the instant it touches the rock.

In order that you may understand how it is possible to change the atomic speed of matter and make this change remain permanent, it will be necessary for me to explain a new principle in what is called polarity. In using the term polarity in this sense, I mean the inter-exchange of two forces of different character. Scientists generally consider that there is a positive and negative side to all manifestations of force, but in order to fully understand the force stored up in matter, it is necessary to consider the fact, experimentally proven, that there are not only two forces of different characteristics manifesting in the principle of polarity, but that there is also a third force or phase; in other words, it has been experimentally proven that there are three phases of energy manifesting in every atom of matter or in every stream of force. These three phases are known as the positive, negative, and dominant. These three phases of energy have been proven to be manifesting in their relation to each other as follows: The positive is the lowest rate or three, the negative is the central phase or six, and the dominant is the highest or nine.

If you take a piece of metal and place it in the fire, you will stimulate the positive phase of energy in the atoms; take it out of the fire and it will come back to its normal relation to the other two phases. Place the same metal in chemicals and freeze it and you will stimulate the negative phase; take it out and it will come back to its normal relation to the other two. However, if you will raise all three phases of atomic energy in an atom at the same time, and keep them in their normal relation to each other, there is no incentive on the part of any one phase to come back to its original state of vibration, as you have left them at their normal relation to each other.

Thus, by applying a force with a sufficiently high rate or energy which has three phases of energy within its nature, we were able to raise all three phases of energy in the molecules of matter at the same time, and thus establish a new rate of atomic speed; therefore, when the atomic speed of matter is once changed by the ray, it remains permanently where it is placed.

Reason proves to us that a principle which is universal in its application, such as three phases of energy, must manifest on all planes of activity in accordance with its nature. Therefore, this principle must apply also to the forces governing a solar system. In other words, the negative side of gravitation must be flowing at a rate of speed one-third faster than the positive side of gravitation. In order to cause the atomic speed of matter to resist this negative side of the force coming out of the earth, it would be necessary to increase the atomic speed of matter. This hypothesis was proved to be true through development of the ray.

It is commonly believed that the force known as magnetic energy is produced out of electricity, but it is unreasonable to believe that we can produce a higher rate of force out of a lower one. We know we can "house in", insulate or confine electricity, but we also know that magnetic energy cannot be insulated or confined, proving therefore, that magnetic energy is a faster or superior force to that of electricity. If we cause electricity to flow through a coil of wire, we resist the flow or retard its action, and reason tells us that we cannot retard the action of the force and at the same time transform it into a higher force of different character.

Therefore, by causing electricity to flow through a coil of wire a vortex of energy is set up which resists the flow of gravitation and transforms gravitation into magnetic energy.

It is a well known fact that magnetic energy can in turn be resisted by an armature whirling in a field or force, and, thus generate electricity. Resist electricity properly and we will produce an arc-light by a combustible material, and we have flame or heat; resist this flame or heat by the oxygen and nitrogen in the air and we have sound; place it in a vacuum, we have no sound; properly resist this one force substance again, in the form of the amperage of electricity, and we create cohesion in the form of helium. Thus, we see that it is possible by commencing at the top with gravitation, and by a series or steps of resistance only, it is possible to create magnetism, electricity, light, heat, sound and cohesion from the one higher force known as gravitation.

These few short pages contain the essence of Nature's Penetralia.

Of course, all this is "SF" to you My my, if you only knew...

I can't GIVE u Illumination to make u comprehend, only u can do that. I'm simply leading a horse to WATER.

Ironic. We've all seen your "illumination" throughout your posts. Better analogy would be that i am trying to teach a brick sing and all brick does is repeat the same damped sound cause it's (I)Q factor ain't particularly high.

Bentov, Tassel, Zirbes why u think I seek answers from others? already have answers and proof to go with them. already have understanding of LIGHT the 1 thing. thank u for tip tho.

You THINK you have understanding but you have not. All you got is Russell's perspective and even that one you totally misunderstood, no need to repeat your gems.

As for your reply to tomd, i cringe how you shamelessly literally copy Zila's words, not only technical but her phrases, expressions, way of speaking, you're trying to be her, it's sad.

[nix85]

Little more on Nature's Penetralia in line with great work of Hollingshead quoted above, this is from A Dweller on Two Planets finished in 1886., probably the most valuable occult book given to Man in the last 12,000 years since sinking of Atlantis. RARE are those who know about it even more rare those who read (multiple times) and understood it.

I have said that the Atlans recognized Nature in its entirety to be Deity externalized. Their philosophy asserted that force moved, not in straight lines but in circles, that is, so as always to return into itself. If the dynamism operating the universe acts in circular progression, it follows that an infinity of increase in vibration possible to One Substance would be an untenable concept. There must be a point in the circle where extremes meet and run the round again, and this we find between cathodicity and magnetism. As vibration brought substance into the realm of light, it must carry it out. It does so. It conveys it into what the Poseidi termed Navaz, the Night−Side of Nature, where duality becomes manifest, cold opposing heat, darkness light, and where positive polarity opposes negative, all things antipodal. Cold is as much a substantial entity as heat, and darkness as light. There is a prism of seven colors in each white ray of light; there is also a septuple prism of black entities in the blackest gloom the night is as pregnant as the day.

The Poseid investigator thus became cognizant of wondrous forces of nature which he might bend to the uses of mankind. The secret was out, the discovery being that attraction of gravitation, the law of weight, had set over against it the repulsion by levitation; that the first belonged to the Light−Side of Nature, and the second to Navaz, the Night−Side; that vibration governed the darkness and the cold. Thus Poseid, like Job of old, knew the path to the house of darkness, and the treasures of the hail (cold). Through this wisdom Atlantis found it possible to adjust weight (positiveness) to lack of weight (negativeness) so evenly that no tug of war was manifest. This achievement meant much. It meant aerial navigation without wings or unwieldy gas−reservoirs, through taking advantage of repulsion by levitation opposed in overmatching strength to the attraction of gravitation. That vibration of the One Substance governed and composed all realms was a discovery which solved the problem of the conveyance of images of light, pictures of forms, as well as of sound and heat, just as the telephone thou knowest so well conveys images of sound, only In Poseid no wires or other sensible material connection was required in the use, at whatever distance, of either telephones or telephotes, nor even in caloriveyance, that is, heat−conduction.

To digress a little, it is to the employment of these and the higher forces of the night−side that seemingly magic feats of occult adepts, from the Man of Nazareth down to the least Yogi, are indebted for their possibility.

I may add, this is the COOL BREEZE felt at the top of the head once Kundalini is activated.