How HHO works

[db4uf]

When HHO is ignited in its pure form.  It produces no energy leading me to believe it must only contain single hydrogen and oxygen atoms.  If it was H2 and or O2 those molecules would have to expand or explode before it could form H2O, basically rocket fuel.  So when atmospheric air is added to the HHO and ignited, we get an explosion.  This would indicate that the atmospheric air would then be the fuel for this explosion!  We have E=MC^2 and the explosive energy E is equal to some of the mass M (atmospheric air) that was added to the HHO.  So this appears to be a conversion of mass to energy.  What do you think?

Dave,

A little update on this: H2 and O2 have to expand to HHO before it can form a water molecule.  You cannot combine H2 and O2 without this happening first!  That is my understanding.  So we are back to why does HHO explode?  I have my thoughts and will explain later.

Dave,

[kolbacict]

So when atmospheric air is added to the HHO and ignited, we get an explosion.  This would indicate that the atmospheric air would then be the fuel for this explosion!  We have E=MC^2 and the explosive energy E is equal to some of the mass M (atmospheric air) that was added to the HHO.

No.  E=MC^2  It's not about that. 
The H2 molecule combines with the O2 molecule by a free radical mechanism.

Nothing ventured nothing gained ...

That's for sure.
I'll try to write a letter
info.us@lenze.com.

[db4uf]

No.  E=MC^2  It's not about that. 
The H2 molecule combines with the O2 molecule by a free radical mechanism.
That's for sure.
I'll try to write a letter
info.us@lenze.com.

I am looking forward to your response

[sm0ky2]

Water is formed by a double-ionic bond (covalent)


Oxygen is a -2
And each Hydrogen is a +1


Now, 2 Hydrogens cannot (by themselves) overcome the -4 of an O2 molecule.
It requires the H2 to be in an excited state.
This excited state separates the H+ and H+ slightly further from one another,
(quazi-ionic, but still molecularly bonded by the strong force at this point)
and rips one of the O atoms from the O2 molecule.
Freeing up an O- ion. (this allows for a cascade of exciting more H2's)


The O- ion that is 'grabbed' by the excited H2 'turns' it's magnetic moment to face the H2
Both H atoms turn their magnetic moments to face the O- ion
the coupling, therefore, is oriented along a single planar vector.
This causes the water molecule to be a 'dipole'.


The double-ionic bonding releases photons and heat,
leaving the H+ ions in a lower energy state.
The free O- ion results in a net - charge which is free to migrate.
(this is exploited in fuel-cell technology)


In ionic form (HHO) catalyzing this reaction requires less energy,
as the Oxygen is already in its' ionic state, and does not require excitation.
[Brown's gas fuel-cells, for this reason, require a catalyst and an ion source (secondary fuel)]
The release of energy in the form of light and heat while approximately the same in magnitude,
are thought to occur much more quickly. (quantification of this requires expensive equipment).


The ionic 'explosion' is purely energetic in nature, further testing has demonstrated that,
even though the gasses condense in a momentary implosion: the buildup
of heat can vaporize some of the water,
(another indication that phase change happens before energy release)
creating steam and pressure in a closed vessel, as well as water vapor in an open flame.






Burning Flame: there is a noticeable temperature difference between the two gaseous forms:
In pure nitrogen ionic burns 4000-6000 degrees hotter (instantaneous), both exceed 10k F after
several minutes.


In open air:
H2 + O2 (stoichiometric): starts out around 4800F, then quickly drops about 400-500 degrees.
(heat will build up when torching directly on an object indicating reaction with air causes cooling)
Fusion - O2,CO, CO2, O3


HHO (ionic / Brown's Gas): starts out around 10k F, then drops about 1k degrees in a mild breeze.
Fusion - CO, CO2, O3, NOx(1,2,3), and
graphitic carbon nitride particulates[< 0.01g/kmol @ 1 atm / L^3 HHO]