More clairifaction of floors Twist Drive

[hartiberlin]

Willy, I have set you now as the moderator for this board.
Regards, Stefan.

[Willy]

Thank you Ramset and hartiberlin...

Only two   claims    remian to be resolved for the Twist drive device
and method.


1. Either the bottle weights and fall distances are as demonstrated in the many videos
or they are not.


2. Either the device can be cascaded or it can not.

[Tarsier_79]

Hi W.

I ordered some magnets for a replication last night.

I don't think you need to cascade your device.

A lighter weight lifts a heavier weight does not immediately mean OU. We need usable energy output on top of the reset.

[Willy]

Agree

         ADDED

I hope you ordered ceramic magnets, ones that are practically identical
to those described in videos and other descriptions.

The use  of neodymium magnets will cause a fail.
Those require special adaptations of  the device.

I hope you (please) will not improvise changes or what might perhaps appear to
improvements to the magnets or their interactions.

Replication must be replication.

  Added more
All that is needed is the magnet interactions to be replicated at this time

               Even the very slightest amount of  electrical output would be O.U.

          Energy Conservation itself says this is so.

[Willy]

Partial quote

I think you are saying the reduction in weight on the RO direcly affects the distance the SL will move? That is OK, I get that and I understand the magnetic forces are stronger the closer the two magnets get and in what orientation the RO... I think it could still be possible to operate within the limits of that at the smaller distance and achieve a total gain in PE in a complete cycle.

I think you are starting to understand how difficult it is to describe these magnet
interactions.

Its not like one can just say ..,
   for example...
(the leverage present there) because a lever trades force and distance.
           While in these interactions,
from the SLiding unit side, less force and less distance are traded
for more force and greater distance on the ROtating unit side.

What does one call this ? It's not leverage. Over leverage ?
                                   and
Its not OVER UNITY, due to the fact that during the full cycling, any energy gain
is balanced out /canceled.  What is one to do ?  Create new vocabulary I suppose ?
Like perhaps "quasi over unity".

The same applies from the RO side of the interactions.
Its not leverage and its not UNDER UNITY. 

I find I must refer to input as 'input' and output as 'output'.

Here is where it gets really tripped out.

During the reset (ROtating magnet is pulled toward parallel to the SLiding magnet)

It wont reset ! Because the action from the RO side is under unity !  No, Not so. Its
what, quasi under unity, right / ok ?

OK...

So, one intervenes.  One has stored a little energy on the SL side as rubber band
stretch.

Now check this out. 

While the RO magnet is at 90 deg. off from the SL magnet,
That rubber band's contraction is being applied, in what is a quasi over unity manner,
but now, as SL gap OPENING.  It contributes a quasi over unity toward the RO's, quasi
under unity. Less distance and force traded for more distance and more force.
Initiating RO returning to its far from 90 deg. position.

                   Very cool though

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