1. The origin of the universe

[stivep]

Holy crap:
Spin something faster than light hypothetically.
That's really stupid....

animal basic needs are:
_{air
water
food
shelter
safety
sleep
fur (in some cases)}
human animal basic needs are:
_{air
water
food
shelter
safety
sleep
clothing (in some cases)}
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_{human beings are the only animals that can form a concept of their own species and ask how their species differs from others.
But we have a hard time figuring out what our species is, and how it differs from others.}
                                                                                        Allen W. Wood

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however apart from a need of:
feeding, fighting, fleeing and uh - reproduction, some of human animals have desire too :
_{- to go to the bathroom that was built by another animal, and paid
by other spiritual animals, he must become a priest.-their money-collector.
And for that to happen some sort of God must be invented and implemented.}
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and then, that happy animal accompanied by feelings of pleasure after all previous displeasure can shit into the toilet bowl happily ever after..
securing his business with serious pseudo-scientific explanations because
crowd got smarter now days.

Till one day, Albert Einstein comes up with his relativity
Darwin with theory of evolution
and now happy priest animal in fear of revolution can't shit into that toilet
so happily any longer.

Wesley

[selveti]

as long is you stay atheist you will be forever lost ... .. world is advancing forward and you are talking non sense here go look for help in darwin grave see if he will help you cause he was one of the dumb and dumbest.... energy forum thats what people are interested here .. change ur subject

[stivep]

1.stay atheist you will be forever lost ... ..
2.world is advancing forward
3.go look for help in darwin grave   
4.energy  that's what people are interested here ..

questions spiritual animals unlikely responds to:
reg1: lost forever from what? _{provide the proof, evidence, scientific explanation-based on proven concept.}
reg2: world is advancing your standard of life, because of science that leads technology, and not by any other way right?
reg3: is there any scientifically, materialistically present, and practically proven evidence of "help" you talking about?
reg4: I am the animal that is likely leading here with the most of technically advanced and energy related comments out of  3380 of them
am I not?  _{provide the proof, evidence, scientific explanation}

summary:

The animal writing about what happens with infinite velocities is just nonsense.
You might as well theorize what happens when a unicorn spontaneously  comes into existence.
We have discussed that speed is a scalar quantity and velocity is a  vector quantity.
and base on Einstein's theory of relativity the article in question is a complete nonsense.
And that was the purpose of the whole topic here !!!



species: a group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding.
The species is the principal natural taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g. Homo sapiens.

You my friend are assign officially as a species by science that gave you your computer so you can now write me back.
and if you want to express your opinion in regards to article we were talking about
be my guest
Wesley

[Feb2006]

Nether Einsteins or Darwins theories are an explanation of whats was-is before Big Bang.

These chapters are the best explanation I come across.
True or false it's a beautiful explanation.
I only post them her for you to read, not to fight over.

[stivep]

Nether Einsteins or Darwins theories are an explanation of whats was-is before Big Bang.

they didn't have to. Their contribution provided elements we are based on, like a bricks, building blocks.
and that is what creates our explanation.
David Albert  Einstein has memorably criticised accounts of the Big Bang which promise to get something from nothing in this way.

I only post them for you to read, not to fight over.

we are not fighting, we are presenting real, scientifically standing opinion
about article written by uneducated author , or completely dumb individual, or individual with  an agenda.


1. nothing comes from nothing.
_{For something to exist, there must be material or a component available, and for them to be available, there must be something else available.
The first atoms formed out of simpler particles,
atoms came into existence around one ten-thousandth of a second after the Big Bang.
The first long-lived matter particles of any kind were protons and neutrons, which together make up the atomic nucleus.
and before that there was short-lived elementary particles, including quarks, the building blocks of protons and neutrons
Quark, has an antimatter "mirror image" companion, which is near identical to itself, differing only in one aspect.}
However, matter and antimatter annihilate in a flash of energy when they meet, meaning these particles were constantly created and destroyed.

2. even a vacuum,  corresponding to empty spacetime, is full of physical activity in the form of energy fluctuations.
_{These fluctuations can give rise to particles popping out, only to disappear shortly after.
this process is absolutely present repeatable and achievable today in our labs.}

3. spacetime
"Planck epoch" – a period so early in the Universe's history
_{This era occurred only one ten-millionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second after the Big Bang.
At this point}, space and time themselves _{became subject to} quantum fluctuations

4. quantum state of the entire Universe at the beginning of the Planck epoch.
-multiverse, which contains an infinite number of parallel universes, or cyclical models of the Universe, being born and reborn again.

And everything is based on one simple factor energy can be converted to mass and reverse.
<sub>like electricity to another form of energy , wood into energy in your furnace
And energy can be converted into matter with mass  M = E / c 2. 

In fact, the entire universe was born in the Big Bang when a whole lot of energy was turned into mass.
For example, burning a gallon of gasoline (3.78 liters) releases about 132 million joules of energy,
which is enough energy to make 14 ng of mass. This is roughly the mass of a single particle of very finely ground flour.
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Mass-energy_equivalence

however:</sub>
Patrick Das Gupta proposed :
_{when a high energy gamma photon converts to an electron and a positron in the presence of a nucleus,
some books wrongly say that energy has got converted to matter.
The right thing is: Total energy of the gamma photon, E= h nu has mass h nu/c^2 and is equal to 2 m c^2/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
where m is the rest mass of the electron, and v is the speed of electron (positron) in the rest frame of the nucleus.
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-example-of-conversion-of-energy-to-mass-according-to-E-mc2}

5.The beginning of times
a four-dimensional fabric called "space-time." _{(by Einstein)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/}

it was energy in equilibrium in space-time.
_{where energy comes from?
https://socratic.org/questions/where-did-the-energy-that-caused-the-big-bang-originate}

The pre-inflationary vacuum in the cosmic microwave background
https://www.arxiv-vanity.com/papers/astro-ph/0612006/

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conclusion:
_{in the total and constant equilibrium in} pre-inflationary vacuum _{there was disturbance that created
manifestation of disbalance in form of energy.
Creationists see in it the holy finger.
Curvature of space-time was disturbed, leading to interaction of elements in} disbalance leading to
big bang _{and today's discussion.}



How do you know that this is true?

if a man from the beginning of 18 century was told about electromagnetic waves he would expect
a proof of its existence.
However none of scientists nor their critics were able to prove it right or wrong.
-advancement of science provides answers with time and proves it's existence .


-religion provides answers requesting not to be proven at any time that are changing under the pressure of
  advanced  science and technology with time passing by.

examples:
Copernicus, flipped upside down geocentism from geocentric into heliocentric throwing holy heaven from the sky into nowhere,
Darwin shake hands with gorillas and other animals throwing human into mammals
Albert Einstein screwed Holly creation of creationists throwing holy books into questioning the holiness of disturbed equilibrium
before big bang.
but  time is going on we are finding more answers to our questions that are absolutely not supporting any holiness
and any Gods.

Wesley