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Is this the beginning of the end?

Started by onepower, January 13, 2023, 02:22:57 AM

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SolarLab

AC,

I really wish you were right; however my SVB (Sicone Valley Bank) US tech investments are, well, now gone - caput' -
whereas all the Yaun, Renminbi and Ruble tech investments are still above water! (fingers are crossed X2 - till full exit).
Hopefully the US Gov or FED bails me out (with your tax money - so; thanks a lot - ya gotta love the system).

Hey! Tech investments should not be high risk. That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it...  :D

Things "are-a-changin" for sure. Keep your head up and your powder dry!  :)   And your investments safe... 



stivep

 Some information  of how Russian Troll agency work. - Russian Internet Research Agency (IRA)
Student is often   working  under the pressure that his mother or Father will lose  a job and his  sister will not be
able to   graduate if he doesn't perform  as a  troll. Usually this  becomes an issue when student wants to quit.
Outcome is not important to a troll, but number of comments per day- That is what he is payed for.
If there is a goal than - it is to find who is who in given platform.
Destruction  is  the purpose of Russian trolls activity.
Russia is losing the war, Putin is worldwide politically dead body hunted by International  Criminal Court. He can  travel nowhere .
since last Friday.  In worse situation  Russia might be divided on number of small countries again.


Trolls  often stay  "quiet" till they get 1k of comments.
Than there is a time for few new  to show up and create the mess. ( often that is the same guy under different nickname)
In some critical moment these  "1000+ comment "Trolls starts  to support them.
Attacking mostly me SolarLab was under moderation but he was given a chance,  his other companions didn't.
Dear Dog-One I didn't  present an opinion up there but historical facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43093390

Wesley


Cloxxki

Quote from: onepower on March 20, 2023, 05:28:29 PM
Cloxxki
Here is the obvious problem with communism, quality of life and energy.

Here in Canada we have carbon taxes and a mandate to go electric in the form of solar/wind/hydro power, heat pumps and EV's within a decade or so. It's unrealistic and some might say impossible however that's not the point. Rather than whining it can't be done most people I know see this as an opportunity to develop new businesses and technology. The old school mentality and the status quo no longer applies and the best person with the best ideas that work is going to dominate.

In fact, the amount of change I'm seeing locally is mind boggling and massive solar/wind farms are popping up everywhere. I'm also seeing EV's everywhere and people putting solar panels on there roofs. The stats say there will be more new jobs in the renewable energy sector than the available jobs in fossil fuel industry within 5 years.

If nothing else this shows us what people here and elsewhere are thinking and most are on board with moving forward. The word is also out that most communist countries like China and Russia are going bankrupt. The technology landscape has changed and a large under educated work force has become a huge liability. Large automated robotic factories can now do the same work cheaper, better and faster locally. Let's be honest, communism was just a crappy way to produce cheap near slave labor but that doesn't cut it any more. Most of there jobs will be replaced by automation/robotics running on clean energy in the near future.

I'm not sure what this means long term, what happens when some move 100 years into the future due to technology while many others have gone nowhere?.

AC
On the generation side, I can imagine wind and solar are much more labor intensive than large scale power stations.
A lot of people work in oil mining and surveying, though.
In mobility, BEV are said to be lower maintenance.
More jobs is great if you're into communism, but on the technological side, it's a symptom of inefficiency.

I do believe that once a decent magnet motor, the rotating kind, sees a larger scale deployment, both cost /MW and overall cost /kWh can dip well below conventional and renewable sources. Costing jobs, but freeing up disposable income for 8 billion people, a billion or so and fighting famine day by day. Cheaper more portable energy from an OU device will make farming (irrigation) more accessible, even on sub-par farmlands now considered lost forever.

Once we achieve solid state OU, and crucially: much higher energy densities/kWh, energy will be like present day broadband, just dirt cheap and abundant compared to our dial-up experience not all that long ago.

And the way Wesley welcomes differing opinions from himself, is that closer to capitalism, communism, or fascism? Some other ism I'm omitting from the list?

Chat GPT, which political ideology is best know for opposing differing voices and removing them from society?

stivep

Gibberish.  Overunity doesn't exist.
Politics  mixed with  environmentalism
Typical text from a shelf  for multipurpose use  in  photographic form to avoid OCR.
In the title of the picture text - it should be word "known" not "know"... 
~ 1 per 100 000 Russians likely speak some English.
It will be some work to clean the forum  after that.
Wesley 

SolarLab


CLOWN - TROLL Exposure and What To Watch Out For

The following is from a old lecture but is still valid today.

How to Quickly Spot a "CLOWN" (some insight from the Experts(?)) Just so you can recognize it for what it is.
The term "CLOWN" as used here is generic and includes "TROLLs" and "LARPs,."

Don't get suckered into wasting your time. Hardened anons should already know this stuff; This is
more a crash course for new visitors.

Good stuff to be aware of; even if it would never happen here!

They will:

- Attempt to get a divisive or emotional response from you to derail research.

- Concern troll and copy/pasta spam shill to contradict confirmed findings.

- Employ faux debate tactics: Generalizations, gas-lighting, projection, misdirection, false equivalences, confusing
correlation with causation, appeal to authority, transference, false precepts, personal attacks, straw-men, red herrings, etc.

- Promote social ethics that are disingenuous like doxxing, "reverse psychology", or promoting propaganda.

- Promote tactics that are unethical, illegal or involve methods outside the scope of the Law.

- Employ Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt to dissuade research.

Topic sliding - If information of a valuable or informative nature has been posted on a discussion forum, it can be quickly
removed from public view by topic sliding. 

In this technique a large number of unrelated posts, or posts aimed at diluting the information presented, are submitted in
an effort to trigger a topic slide to literally push content out of view. Operators can control several fake UIDs via the bots they
make use of; these can also be called upon in the other techniques to mask the intent of the operator from the users at large.

Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting, unless the thread is moderated, the post is now lost in a sea of
unrelated and bogus postings.

Seeding bad information - Operatives will insert flawed or bogus information from time to time as an ongoing tactic, depending
on their skill set and the needs of their mission. Their most common ruse is providing information or evidence which is backed by
bad source material in the hope that the "source of the source" is never checked. This serves several objectives,
mainly resource consumption, evidence pollution, discouragement and misdirection.

Astroturfing consensus -This is a technique that attempts to build a manufactured consensus around a flawed set of statements
or compromised information. This is related to consensus cracking, where false evidence is injected in an attempt to dispute or
discredit what the current consensus is, and push it towards the desired false consensus.  Misleading and false evidence and
information are often salted into the evidence pool, with an aim to impede organic consensus building, while also poisoning the
available information and evidence.

Cultivating tacit approval (The legal term for this is 'silent agreement') - Attempting to attain this state is done using a
technique where operators will try to convince the user population to ignore, or not respond to bad information or false assertions.
This is done in a bid to reduce push-back against the above mentioned tactics.

It's worth noting that the reply filtering mechanism of the boards (which currently can't be disabled without code changes from
the site admin) is used as a weapon of sorts in this tactic: Filtering with software prevents anons from defending against seeding
bad information and astroturfing consensus. This is why the CLOWNS (operators) push so hard to condition anons into filtering
material they disagree with.

Also worth noting is it can be proven in many cases that the vast majority of these CLOWNS are well trained, well paid,
some are highly skilled, and they will often accuse you of the very "things" that they, themselves, are engaged in...
and they often work in groups while using numerious synms...

So be vigilant - it only takes one Clown to ruin a discussion or thread. Many good posters will not post or
simply leave once a Clown invades the thread.

Have a good day and happy posting...



Further to my "CLOWN - TROLL Exposure and What To Watch Out For" post above:

Since many of these Clown/Trolls are paid for posting and sometimes paid even more when you respond to their posts;
they can be quite persistant, as we have all seen, even to the point of being pesky. This is easily observed in many cases.

The best defence against this is to "Simply DO NO RESPOND" to them. Often times they will just "move on to another
thread" where they can gain a little more for their time and effort.

Clown Trolls can be a real problem, but exposing them and knowing how to mitigate their affect on a subject goes
a long way in combating this plague