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Is this the beginning of the end?

Started by onepower, January 13, 2023, 02:22:57 AM

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onepower

There is a more rational explanation...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse#Demographic_dynamics

QuoteModels of societal response
According to Joseph Tainter (1990), too many scholars offer facile explanations of societal collapse by assuming one or more of the following three models in the face of collapse:

1) The Dinosaur, a large-scale society in which resources are being depleted at an exponential rate, but nothing is done to rectify the problem because the ruling elite are unwilling or unable to adapt to those resources' reduced availability. In this type of society, rulers tend to oppose any solutions that diverge from their present course of action but favor intensification and commit an increasing number of resources to their present plans, projects, and social institutions.

2) The Runaway Train, a society whose continuing function depends on constant growth (cf. Frederick Jackson Turner's Frontier Thesis). This type of society, based almost exclusively on acquisition (such as pillaging or exploitation), cannot be sustained indefinitely. The Assyrian, Roman and Mongol Empires, for example, all fractured and collapsed when no new conquests could be achieved.

3) The House of Cards, a society that has grown to be so large and include so many complex social institutions that it is inherently unstable and prone to collapse. This type of society has been seen with particular frequency among Eastern Bloc and other communist nations, in which all social organizations are arms of the government or ruling party, such that the government must either stifle association wholesale (encouraging dissent and subversion) or exercise less authority than it asserts (undermining its legitimacy in the public eye).

Our present collapse may be due to a combination of events...
1)Natural disasters/climate change due to overpopulation/over consumption and/or pollution.
2)Mass migration from poverty leads to economic depression and internal strife.
3)Disease outbreaks, overpopulation increases contact/mutation and the spread of diseases.
4)Demographic dynamics, 80% of current jobs are being replaced by AI and automation.
More important the older generation is incapable of change and won't allow it which prevents progress. They cling to old and outdated false beliefs, science and technology.

As the story goes, every past civilization falsely believed they were superior and nothing would happen but it always did. The proof is that every civilization to date has failed and the facts speak for themselves.

AC

Paul-R

Quote from: h20power on January 16, 2023, 12:37:43 PM

...we all have free will to believe in whatever we want to believe.
Correct.

All the rest is "Bible Bashing" and has no place in this forum.

onepower

H2opower
Quote...we all have free will to believe in whatever we want to believe.

I think Ricky Garvais said it best...
"You have the right to believe in what you want, I have the right to believe it's ridiculous".

To be clear, nobody claimed any person cannot believe what they want however they are not free to believe or judge others without consequences. It begs the question, if a theist is free to promote there beliefs and bash atheists why are atheists not free to criticize them for it?.

It seems a little hypocritical doesn't it and yet we see this all the time. Here's a clue, if you do not want to be criticized stop criticizing others.

PaulR
QuoteCorrect.
All the rest is "Bible Bashing" and has no place in this forum.

By the same token all this atheist bashing has no place either. Do not judge or you to will be judged in the same way by the same measure.

AC


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BorisKrabow

If people cannot cope with survival on earth,
                        then nature will quickly fill the vacated niche with more responsible residents.

      There is some element of calm and harmony in this .....   :)