Serious HES derivative project proposal

[Cadman]

Thanks Dog-One,

Even if your circuit doesn't output the wave form in my picture it's helpful and informative now that you've made it more clear to me. The timing diagram that SL posted from one of the patents shows all pulses in the positive direction, but there is also a polarity changer involved that changes the polarity sent to the coils. In SL's timing diagram from the patent, the polarity change is shown as lighter gray lines in the pulse train. That's easy to miss unless the patents are really studied like SL did.

The Lingen pulse train sweeps in one direction. The pulse train left to right starts at coil 1 and ends at coil 4. All 4 pulses are pulsed with the same polarity current. Then you are at the end of the period shown in the diagram. Current polarity swaps, then the pulse train to the same 4 coils repeats left to right with that opposite polarity. Repeat 4 pos, 4 neg in a loop as long as desired. And this one set of pulse trains can be used to signal or supply multiple Lingens too.

The offset between the trains to each coil is there to help roll the magnetic field across the 4 coils. It could be a percentage of the period and vary with the pulse frequency, or everything could be set for a single frequency.

I'm going to build your circuit as it is and maybe try to come up with a way to modify it for adjustable offsets etc. With my skill level that will probably end in failure though. But, the components are easily affordable.

Of course you, or anyone else, are more than welcome to come up with that circuit yourself, ... hint hint  ...

[Cadman]

Don't you think that there is a fundamental difference between the sinusoidal three-phase voltage that we have from the outlet. And the one that we get with the help of mosfets, relays, switching with brushes and a collector, and so on (meandr) ? And they behave in the stator a little differently. Even from my frequency converter for asynchronous PWM motors, the
signal is not quite clean. One smart person from Odessa pointed this out to me.

Hi kolbacict,

Yes, you know there's a big difference. SL based his Lingen mostly from the HES cell phone generator/charger, which is for a DC output.

I think it also happens to be the starting point for the excitation of the HES stand alone generators. I'll bet you've read that their generation process starts with a relatively insignificant magnetic field, so that would be from a relatively small supply of current. That current is used to successively increase the output in other windings until it's kilowatts. Holcomb also states that his generators can output currents of any phase, so there has to be a whole lot more to their circuitry from the start.

[Cadman]

In hopes of making my vision of this generator more clear. This is for the starting point of the project. Hopefully, better more advanced configurations will follow.

[bistander]

... The timing diagram that SL posted from one of the patents shows all pulses in the positive direction, ...

Hi Cadman,
Can you post that timing diagram or link to post where SL showed it? I've been through Holcomb's patents/applications and it appeared he was always using North-off-South-off-North-off-South- -- and so on sequencing. Certainly when 3-phase mains are used for exciting the RMF, it swings N to S to N to S to N and so on.

Regarding the configuration of the 36 stator coils, I haven't seen suggested, but think you should consider using 6 or 12 poles. When 6 poles, each pole face has 6 teeth and coils, when 12 poles, each pole face has 3 teeth and coils. That way no individual teeth/coils go unused and there will be no discontinuities when you populate the entire circumference with your powdered Fe sectors. Take or leave.
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[Cadman]

Hi Bistander,

I posted the link here yesterday but here it is again https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99028#msg99028

The only reasoning I have for the 32 coil setup is that it allows for a 4 pulse driver (fewer components and matches the PLC I already have) and is more relatable to the 8 coil Lingen. It's a place to start, and I was hoping that making it as easy as possible would encourage more good people to participate and help get the project off the ground. I realize the output will likely have to be rectified and the ripple smoothed out. I really would like to have 3 phase output, even if it has imperfect sine waves. But that's tabled for later unless someone donates a driver schematic for one up front that I could easily build.

I really do appreciate your expert suggestions and input. Very helpful, thank you.