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Mechanical resonant oscillation as basic overunity method

Started by nix85, February 17, 2023, 06:54:53 PM

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perpetual

You are trying to troll your way out of admitting your mistakes, but you fail there as well.

No, i do not want you to stop posting here, i never said or implied that.

Since you decided to act like a 5yo refusing to admit your mistakes there is no point in pursuing the issue.

Obviously sealed at its upper end, filled with water, its bottom end is immersed below the water line of a tank of water and most of the tube has been lifted above the water line of the tank of water below it - this was clearly described and you knew it when you made the claims.

Fact remains pressure at the bottom does NOT rise with height, it is 1 atmosphere, contrary to your claim.

And also this system should be around 200% efficient, possibly more, also contrary to your claim.

Now, keep acting like a 5yo or stand behind your claims like an adult.

Nix

Willy

partial quote below only

Quote from: perpetual on April 19, 2023, 02:16:10 PM
Obviously sealed at its upper end, filled with water, its bottom end is immersed below the water line of a tank of water and most of the tube has been lifted above the water line of the tank of water below it - this was clearly described and you knew it when you made the claims.

Fact remains pressure at the bottom does NOT rise with height, it is 1 atmosphere, contrary to your claim.

this tube
1. sealed at its upper end
2. filled with water
3. its bottom end is immersed below the water line of a tank of water
4. most of the tube has been lifted above the water line of the tank of water below it

has a vacuum relative to the pressure outside it (above the tank's water line).
That vacuum is greater near to the top of the tube than is the vacuum present
near to the bottom of that tube.

That vacuum drops to zero at the tank's water line.
[/quote]

now we are getting some where...

The pressure relative to the surrounding air pressure (rather than vacuum) is zero
at the tank's water line 
and
below the tank's water line the pressure relative to the surrounding air pressure  is greater
than the surrounding air pressure
and
the farther below the tank's water line the greater that pressure becomes relative to the
surrounding air pressure.

There is my confession, part 1.  Does this satify you as part 1 ?

perpetual

You are using term vacuum instead of partial vacuum, vacuum is created only if height difference is 10.3 meters or more.

But sure, you finally admitted pressure at the bottom does not rise with height of the tube.

What about your claim that there is no energy gain here.

Willy

Agree
"partial vacuum" rather than "vacuum" is the correct phrase or word choice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum

However, since you bring this up.  Does not this not indicate that you already
understood the phrase "vacuum relative to the surrounding air pressure" to mean
partial vacuum ?  Why under the conditions being discussed, would anyone assume
other wise ?


perpetual

Firstly, in your sentence where you finally admitted your sin

"The pressure relative to the surrounding air pressure (rather than vacuum) is zero
at the tank's water line"

"rather than vacuum" part is unnecessary. You are comparing pressure inside the tube at water line to pressure outside the tube at water line aka surrounding atmospheric pressure, there is absolutely no need to say "rather than vacuum" or partial vacuum. And in the first place there is no need to even complicate the issue with "the pressure relative to...", as i've been saying from the beginning pressure at the bottom of the tube (at waterline) IS the surrounding atmospheric pressure.

Now, you totally misunderstood why i brought up the "partial vacuum", it is not that in your sentence "rather than..." partial vacuum must be used instead of vacuum. Whole "rather than" thing is redundant.

I said partial vacuum referring to vacuum at the top of the tube. Technically, it is never a perfect vacuum cause even after 10.3 meter height long before perfect vacuum is created water boils and cold steam fills that space, it is surely not vacuum.

At lower heights there is no vacuum at all, partial or complete. Tube is completely filled with water, how can there be vacuum. It is only that pressure that water experiences toward the top is smaller than 1 atmosphere proportionally to difference in height and we all know air pressure falls with height.

Why the 10.3 meter limit (or little less), what is vapor pressure etc is nicely explained in the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHNoHhbfFDQ

Nix