Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!

[tinman]

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Well, the old hypothesis have worked for nearly 150 years

Well lets have a look at that.

The Faraday's induction formula (flux rule) of electromagnetism says that the electromotive force (emf) created in a conducting circuit is equal to the rate at which the magnetic flux through the conducting circuit changes

So this law does not apply to all situations.
As i stated, we have generators today, where an EMF and current flow is induced in the conductor, without there being any change of magnetic field or flux in relation to the conductor. So Faradays law of induction dose not apply and is not correct in all situations.

These laws also clearly state that it is the EMF that induces current flow in a conductor, not the magnetic field.

Let me ask you this--
If we had super conductive wire, and made a coil out of it, would an external changing magnetic field induce current flow through that coil? Keep in mind that a super conductor rejects any change in a magnetic field.


Brad

[SolarLab]

Well lets have a look at that.

So this law does not apply to all situations.
As i stated, we have generators today, where an EMF and current flow is induced in the conductor, without there being any change of magnetic field or flux in relation to the conductor. So Faradays law of induction dose not apply and is not correct in all situations.

These laws also clearly state that it is the EMF that induces current flow in a conductor, not the magnetic field.

Let me ask you this--
If we had super conductive wire, and made a coil out of it, would an external changing magnetic field induce current flow through that coil? Keep in mind that a super conductor rejects any change in a magnetic field.


Brad

Faraday's Law has a variety of interpretations according to modern engineering. Each one has specifics to
the application - has expanded a bit over the hundred plus years - helps in explaining the specific mechanics.

Superconductors - I have no real idea - typically the changing magnetic field would induce a current, but being a super conductor
there would be zero resistance so I don't know (don't have any hands on experience with superconductors).

The superconductor itself rejects magnetic fields internally but rumor has it that the field only "routes around" the conductor, so maybe...
As they say - more (funding) expermentation is required!  A zero resistance wire is interesting however...

I'm still trying to figure out how to leverage conventional magnetics to yield excess energy in a viable form that's useable and
can be used in CAE Analysis and Simulation to make the process more expedient. Practical Physics and Engineering so to speak.

[adrouk]

According to Arie deGeus patent very fine strands copper that pass through permanent magnets lose almost completely ohmic resistance while accelerating electrons, where correct polarity of magnets follows direction of electrical flow 

[lumen]

Let me ask you this--If we had super conductive wire, and made a coil out of it, would an external changing magnetic field induce current flow through that coil? Keep in mind that a super conductor rejects any change in a magnetic field.

Moving any conductor through a magnetic field will cause current flow even in super conductors.
Type 1 superconducting wire is used in many devices for extreme efficiency. (some giant wind generators use this)
Type 2 is usually what you see on YouTube and is subject to pinning. (when a magnetic field penetrates into the superconductor and forms tiny eddy current loops that lock onto the field and hold it in place)


Type 1 requires liquid helium for very low temperature.
Type 2 can work in liquid nitrogen and some much warmer.


Neither are a way to over unity IMO.
New findings are still out there!

[tinman]

Moving any conductor through a magnetic field will cause current flow even in super conductors.
Type 1 superconducting wire is used in many devices for extreme efficiency. (some giant wind generators use this)
Type 2 is usually what you see on YouTube and is subject to pinning. (when a magnetic field penetrates into the superconductor and forms tiny eddy current loops that lock onto the field and hold it in place)


Type 1 requires liquid helium for very low temperature.
Type 2 can work in liquid nitrogen and some much warmer.


Neither are a way to over unity IMO.
New findings are still out there!

So true super conducting wire has no resistance.
In order for a current to flow through a conductor, there must be a potential difference across that conductor.
So if super conducting wire has no resistance, and a potential difference cannot be had across that conductor, how does current flow through that conductor ?

(Neither are a way to over unity IMO)

If the whole circuit is super conductive, and there is 0 volts across it, with say 10 amps flowing through it, how much power is this running circuit consuming/dissipating ? How exactly would you drop a voltage across a circuit that has no resistance ? The source would see a dead short.

The mind boggles when you start talking true super conducting conductors.