UFOs as the Nazi legacy

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After the end of World War II, German [Nazi] experts moved to the United States [Operation Paperclip], where they continued to develop, together with international teams and well-known American aviation corporations and concerns, their developments in unconventional aircraft and other technologies at sites prepared for the purpose corresponding to the so-called "Secret areas" such as the well-known "Area 51" and the like.
Their tests and experiments often fall into the eyes of people or the lenses of their cameras, so they are known as UFOs ...
Bob Lazar UFO, George Adamski UFO, Mark McCandlish ARV FluxLinner these are part of German unconventional flying apparatus developments

I am attaching an article in Bulgarian with a translation about a Bulgarian specialist who worked together with German specialists and attended a demonstration of an unconventional flying apparatus in 1944

translation:

A Plovdiv resident with Hitler in an underground UFO factory, making a secret base under Mount Botev

Spring of 1995. A 70-year-old, good-looking man enters the museum in Troyan. He examines the exhibits, then insists on seeing the director Totyu Totevski. The visitor demonstrates knowledge of art, traditions, prehistory. He introduces himself as Mr. Kolev. "I don't know if Mr. wasn't his personal name - I didn't understand at the time, and I didn't ask," says the now former director. Word for word their conversation came to the Lemuro-Atlanteans and their flying machines, known as UFOs. "I'm here next week and I'm going to show you part of a diary that will change your thinking," Kolev says. "He actually came back a week later and showed me this diary," Totevski said. "Read! If you wish, you can take notes. But without photos and copies." With these words, Kolev handed him an old school notebook. The author of the notes introduced himself as follows: "My name is Hristofor Kolev. I was born on June 24, 1915 in Plovdiv. My father was an officer. My big dream was to study aeronautical engineering, and because I had the opportunity, I graduated in Germany when the Reich was marching victoriously. I graduated with honors and was offered to join Prof. Letzer's group, which worked for the manufacturers of the Me 262, Ju 52, FW 200 aircraft." All pages were numbered in pencil, but the first ones were missing. The preserved ones began with N942. "By -a large part of the diary was occupied by formulas, drawings and explanations in Bulgarian and German. Apparently they were for specialists, I didn't understand anything," says Totevski. On sheet N967 only in Bulgarian was written: "On February 21, 1944, Prof. Letzer called me urgently by phone. When I came out into the street, I saw a car waiting for me, in which I was politely invited to enter. We traveled for about 2 hours and arrived at an airport that I, although I knew all about the runways near Berlin, did not even suspect. A twin-engine plane stood out in the darkness, warming up its engines. At the same time as my car, 3 more arrived, from which Prof. Letzer and my colleagues Hans Döpfer and Helmut Altenburg got out." Further, Eng. Kolev described a visit to an underground factory - one of many scattered throughout Europe during Hitler's time. "The following lines shook me, says Totevski. The aircraft engineer described: "After many checks, we finally entered a large hall with dimly lit walls and ceiling. Several military personnel were bent over at a long table. As we entered, they stood up and Hitler's profile stood out among them. After the customary greeting, we lined up around the table , as we sat down behind the Führer. Hitler nodded to General Hochmeister, the director of the plant, whom we knew from previous work together, and he ordered the lights to be turned on. We were in a huge hangar. I was shocked. In the middle of the dungeon I saw this, which I had heard of, but no one believed. It was the mysterious saucer, standing on 4 legs, with a small hemispherical opaque dome. Yellow and red lights flashed along the rim. The general pressed a large red button next to his right hand and the run of the lights intensified until a continuous and blindingly bright circle of light was formed. The dome over the hangar slowly opened, and a moment later the saucer flew vertically at an indescribable speed. At about 3,000 m it hung in the air, then flew sharply to the side, again hung motionless and then in a few moments it again stood silently on its 4 ugly thin legs, blinking as if playing with its lights. It was as if nothing had happened. We heard no noise from engines, not even a noticeable movement of the air. "Tibet 3 a X 44" - concluded gen. Hochmeister. With a slight creak, the dome closed over us. Have they overcome gravity, I thought for a moment, but I hastened to expel this heretical thought." Acquaintance with the Führer's top-secret weapon was not accidental. The aircraft engineer from Plovdiv knew that there was an order to include Prof. Letzer and his colleagues in the creation project on a base such as the "Divine Fire" plan envisioned to be equipped in specially selected places. One of them was in the Balkans - Mount Yumrukchal in Bulgaria, renamed Mount Botev in 1950. After several months of preparation, the group, equipped with the most modern navigation equipment, carried by 4 transport planes at Bozhurishte airport. "On August 23, 1944, we were on the highest Staroplanin peak. We prepared the base 1200 m west of the triangulation point. North of the ridge about 250m the surveyors had marked a shallow cave in which we placed the food block and reserves. In case of unforeseen danger, we would blow up the rock above it, well loaded with explosives by the sappers, in order to bury everything - food, weapons, equipment", the Bulgarian engineer described in detail the time and location of the base. According to his further notes, the first landing in Bulgaria by an aircraft from the "Tibet" series was carried out on August 26 at 2:15 a.m. Another 9 followed. However, on September 4, 1944, an accident occurred. Eng. Kolev also revealed: "Tibetan usually stayed at a site and for landing between 4 and 12 minutes. Then it flew sharply to the south or east. On the 4th, 10 minutes after landing, at about 11 p.m., the base was attacked by several Soviet fighters, which, circling, began furiously firing at the aircraft, navigation systems, cars and everything that moved. I saw the attackers' bullets and shells bounce off the hull of the saucer, which flew vertically and was lost in the sky. Everything passed in half a minute or one minute." From Prof. Letzer's group, only Hristofor Kolev survived. On the backup radio station, hidden in the cave, help was urgently called from Plovdiv and reported to Berlin. After 2 days, the base was liquidated, and the cave was blown up. "And why Hitler did not use this super-powerful weapon in the war remains a mystery. At least for me," the engineer finally wrote. During Totevski's third and last meeting with Mr. Kolev, he learned more about the author of the notes. "My uncle unexpectedly returned to our father's house. A few days later, Soviet occupation troops entered Bulgaria. He did not leave the room and was constantly writing. I know from my father that he asked to find a reliable person to send his notes to our aunt in Stara Zagora, who was married to the German Müller. At the last moment, uncle tore off the first 41 leaves and carefully burned them, and on a separate sheet wrote an address in Turuia, where the notebook should be sent. I don't know why this hasn't been done. As the sole heir of Aunt Margarita Müller, decades later, digging into the family archives, I found my uncle's diary," said Kolev. The further fate of Eng. Hristofor Kolev was unknown to his nephew. One evening, lightly dressed, he left the house and he never returned. Rumors spread around the neighborhood that as a German graduate he was arrested and shot on the banks of Maritsa. "Unfortunately for the Soviet specialists who had sent a special unit to capture him and send him to the relevant research centers. It's no wonder that he was delivered where he should be, for further work in his specialty, and that the rumor about his murder was spread on purpose - to mislead the right person," said Mr. Kolev./24 Hours
Published on August 9, 2014

I read somewhere that the creator of the US space program, Wernher Von Braun, often got angry and sad when people started to associate UFOs with extraterrestrials

meanwhile, some leading car concerns such as Audi, Volkswagen, Renault are working on this type of electromagnetic electrogravitic unconventional propulsion borrowed from UFOs and timidly hinting through some of their futuristic concepts such as the so-called "PEOPLE S CAR" project presented in China or "Renault Float hover car" and hoverboard project: https://youtu.be/A4vE_vpkr90 ....maybe in the future there will be whole flying homes and dwellings?

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I am attaching the original article:
https://www.24chasa.bg/bulgaria/article/4236463

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I would not mix Bob LIEzar with George Adamski and Mark McCandlish who spoke the truth, LIEzar is almost certainly a government conintel agent who appeared just when public became aware of Area 51 and was starting to get curious about secret programs, there was an urgent need to derail any serious research, and what better way to derail but to sell them a sleazy idea that we need some element 115 which, not surprizingly, only ETs have (altho they like gave us 200kg out of pitty)...and to promote the idea that we dont have our own saucers and can't make 'em with 115.

As for Kolev diary, to be honest, as someone who has been deeply researching Nazi field propulsion for many years (and i have shared tons of stuff on the subject many time here) report reads like fiction. I am not dismissing it 100%, but considering that Nazi saucers were far bigger and so many models existed in August 1944., Hitler witnessing testing of a small model seems unlikely.

So what was the actual stage of development of Nazi saucers in August 1944. is best seen from reports like this FBI report by a Polish ex-Nazi prisoner about a 75-100 yard (70-90 meter) wide field propelled disc that stalled a tractor 500 feet away as it rose above the tarpaulin wall 50 feet high and as it cleared the wall moved away. This takes place in East Germany, 1944.

https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view?fbclid=IwAR3RyYoTW5fJxh0KCT2boe2Tql_q79IefTrf8L1QyhgvKQ70cfbE6uizuA4#document/p88

Also Pilot's testimony, which was first published in 1998 in Karl-Heinz Zunneck's book and later in Hitler's Flying Saucers, from which I quote. This happened in July 1944 near the Stettiner Lagoon on the border between Germany and Poland on the Baltic coast.

"The sighting in question was reported to the author, Mr. Zunneck, by Horst Schuppmann whose friend knew the pilot of the JU-52 in question. The date was July, 1944. Accompanying the pilot on this three and one-half hour flight was a co-pilot, a mechanic, and the radio man. The airplane took off from Brest-Deblin and flew on a westerly course to Lublin. The flight was unfolding smoothly which was somewhat abnormal for the particular time and stage of the war. Over Stettin Lagoon preparations were made to land. A large white cross was sighted which was the marker for their goal, a meadow landing strip. The aircraft descended, landed normally and rolled toward a group of bushes which would hide the aircraft from view. Then things took a decided turn to the abnormal. Harsh orders were received that the pilot, co-pilot and mechanic were not to exit the airplane. Suddenly, the radio man had vanished. The others waited an hour in vain for his return.

Finally, the pilot decided to get out of the airplane and find his missing crewman, without orders, and on his own. On the airfield itself nobody was to be seen. There was only one building visible which was a lonely hanger. The pilot, ever concerned with maintaining cover, headed straight for this hanger. Upon arrival he opened an narrow, high sliding door and entered, hoping to receive some information. No person was to be seen but what the pilot did see bewildered him so that the image was deeply ingrained in his mind.

There in the hanger stood three or four very large, round, dark dish shaped metal constructions on telescope-like leg stands. The objects were about 6 meters off the ground and the objects themselves were 12 to 15 meters in diameter. The pilot compared the shape of the objects to a giant soup dish or soup plate. Suddenly, out of the half darkness a military guard emerged. The guard let the pilot know that he was in an area which was strictly off limits. In fact, the pilot was told, on no uncertain terms, to disappear immediately or this would be his last day on earth.

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Of course the question of what those objects in the hanger really were comes back to this pilot even after almost 55 years. The pilot personally attributes it to the so called "Magnetscheibe", literally, "magnet-disk". According to the pilot rumors of these objects circulated in pilot circles since the summer of 1944."

And a summary of the development

So, from the information that Marija received from the people from Aldebaran, the entire German disk program was born, starting with the first model of the Jenseitsflugmaschine, abbreviated as JFM, translated as "machine for the flight to the other side". JFM is described as follows

"The machine itself was disc-shaped with three inner disc plates within a plate-like fuselage and a cylindrical power unit passing through the center of all three plates. The central disc plate was 8 meters in diameter; above it was a parallel disc plate of 6 diameter, 5 meters, and below an equally parallel disk 7 meters in diameter.Through the center of all three disk plates ran a 2.4 meter high cylindrical drive unit which fitted into a 1.8 meter movable hole culminating at the bottom of the disk body to a conical top on to which is attached a huge pendulum with weights to stabilize the craft."

JFM was tested for the first time on March 23, 1922. and the test was catastrophic, the aircraft literally exploded due to enormous centrifugal forces.

From JFM came the next model RFZ-1 (RundFlugZeug meaning "round craft") which used a levitation drive developed by Dr. W.O. Schumann from the Technical Faculty in Munich, who worked at JFM from 1922-1934. The first test of the RFZ-1 took place in 1934 near the Arado-Brandenburg factory, the aircraft rose very quickly to a height of 60 meters before it began to spin uncontrollably, after which it fell to the ground, pilot Lothar Waiz ejected in time.

After that, the RFZ (Vril) 2, 3, 4 and 5 models followed, then the Haunebu models, then the Andromeda Gerat, the 130-meter mother ship, the Vril electro-magnetic-gravitic drives and the Thule Triebwerks. The exact details of these drives are not well known, but it is well known that, like the JFM, they were based on counter-rotating electromagnets, with the fact that the Haunebu drive still used a chamber with ionized mercury.

The development of these spaceships was overseen by Himmler's SS, specifically SS Technical Branch Unit E-IV (Entwicklungsstelle 4).

By the end of the war, the Americans knew the exact locations of 9 of these "Kugleblitz" factories, which they marked on their war maps with the symbol of the planet Saturn.

The SS symbol is clearly visible at the bottom of the Vril disk. SS of course means Schwarze Sonne ie Black Sun and the symbol ᛋ is the Elder Futhark symbol Sowilo which literally means Sun and represents life force ie Vril.

Etc. It's all on my blog, on the front page is all about Nazi saucer development from 1919. to 1945. and beyond.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/

As well as Nazi A-bombs which they unquestionably did develop and test.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/nazi-a-bomb/

Just one out of many quotes

Rudolf Zinsser for US Ninth Army Air Force intelligence report interrogated by Captain Helenes T. Freiberger

"In the beginning of Oct. 1944 I flew from Ludwigslust (south of Lubeck), about 12 to 15 km from an atomic bomb test station, when I noticed a strong, bright illumination of the whole atmosphere, lasting about 2 seconds. The clearly visible pressure wave escaped the approaching and following cloud formed by the explosion. This wave had a diameter of about 1 km when it became visible and the color of the cloud changed frequently. It became dotted after a short period of darkness with all sorts of light spots, which were, in contrast to normal explosions, of a pale blue color. [...] A cloud shaped like a mushroom with turbulent, billowing sections (at about 7000 meter altitude) stood, without any seeming connections, over the spot where the explosion took place. Strong electrical disturbances and the impossibility to continue radio communication as by lightning, turned up."

And various death rays, most notable being the disitegration ray

As Miguel Serrano, let's call hima a priest of esoteric Hitlerism who was close to high-ranking SS members said

"I have spoken with some ex-combatants of the SS who were on the Russian front and through the final offensive in the Ardennes who saw mysterious weapons in action that disintegrated enemy airplanes in full flight, lightning that left only a space where a tank had been before, or that paralysed the enemy without killing. They were used only once and then disappeared."

Confirmation of this lightning death ray is found in the following OSS report, page 3735 in the Dr. Todd Rider's book

OSS Report No. FF-83. 21 October 1944. Atom Smashing Secret Weapon. [NARA RG 77, Entry UD-22A, Box 171, Folder 32.7003-2 GERMANY: US Wartime Positive Int. (July–Oct. 44)]

The Germans have completed a weapon which is founded on the principle of the disintegration of matter (Atomzertruemmerung). Experiments have been performed which have proved conclusive. The effect of this weapon is like that of a thunderbolt, naturally much magnified.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/nazi-death-rays/

So, all rumors are true. Biggest reason people disbelieve is the common skeptical question - if they had it they would not have lost the war. They don't understand that these black programs were mostly run by secret societies and agenda of secret societies is often quite different from national agenda. We may say they lost one war to win another one.

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And of course US, Russia, England and others replicated the tech after the war, according to Major Donald Keyhoe's first book, The Flying Saucers are Real Brits were first to replicate the tech in 1947.

Later reports indicate Russians and Americans caught up by 1954. For example this report from the newspaper "LA CROIX", one of the newspapers that reported on this meeting. This is another in a long series of indications of the secret military in this case Russian space program.

October 21, 1954, France.

A worker from Saint-Rémy (Vosges), Mr. Ujvari, 40 years old, has just told the gendarmes of Raon-l'Etape that, last Wednesday, around 3 am, he was stopped on the road by a stranger of large build and average height, wearing a gray jacket, decorated on the shoulders with shiny badges .

The man spoke an unknown language. Mr. Ujvari, of Czech nationality, tried to speak Russian. His interlocutor understood it perfectly. "Where am I, he asked, in Italy, in Spain?" He then inquired about the distance separating him from the German border, and the time. The worker having told him that it was around 3:30 am, the man took out of his jacket a watch that marked 4 am

Then the stranger gave the worker the order to move forward. Soon Ujvari saw in the middle of the road a craft in the shape of two plates reversed one against the other, from which emerged a kind of periscope.

Arrived at about thirty meters from the apparatus, which was about 1.50 high and 2.50 m wide, the stranger tells him to move away. But, looking back from time to time, Mr. Ujvari varies could see the machine rise slowly vertically with a noise of sewing machines. Arrived at an altitude of 500 meters, it took the horizontal and disappeared in the direction of the south.

Mr. Ujvari said the unknown was wearing a helmet similar to that of a motorcyclist. He had a gun in his hand.

His last word to Mr. Ujvari was "farewell" in Russian.

Electrogravitic craft sighted on March 23, 1966, Temple, Oklahoma. Project Blue Book case No. 10270. Classic case

https://agondonter7.wordpress.com/2019/07/14/project-blue-book-case-no-10270/

In the early Wednesday's morning on March 23, 1966, William Eddie Laxson was driving to work as usual. He was working as an electrical engineer / electronics instructor at Sheppard Air Force Base since 1951. Approximately 10 minutes after he left his home in Temple town, Oklahoma, he turned right on U.S. Highway 70 towards Randlett, passed the farmhouse on his left, and was forced to stop the car, because in the middle of the road was parked a 75 feet (23 meters) long spacecraft! The time was 5:05 a.m.

"What I saw was definitely not from space. The man was wearing fatigues and had a cap with the bill broken up like Air Force mechanics wear," Jaxson said. "It had common English letters on it."

Significantly, Eddie Laxson noticed that the electrogravitic vehicle had the insignia TL 4138, or TL 4738, on its side. He quickly jolted down the numerals in the dirt at the edge of the roadway but couldn't be certain of the second digit after returning to copy them on paper. In the meantime, the mystery man (pilot?) bolted into the spacecraft, and took off. The machine went straight up for about 50 feet (15 meters) and without turning or banking accelerated to approximately 720 mph (1159 km/h), heading towards Red River. Eddie Laxson described the sound as "high-pitched electric drill". When the electrogravitic vehicle rose in the air it seemed to have a magnetic effect on the hair on Laxson's arms.

ARV Fluxliner documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afLsRsd5roY

Below photo from the Wendelle Stevens archives that almost certainly shows an ARV Fluxliner. Air Force Capt. Harvey Williams was flying a C-47 at 12,000 feet when he took this photo 25 miles southwest of Prova, Utah, in 1966.

To later arrow shaped motherships made in remote Utah desert underground and other places captured by JL Walson etc.

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It is not widely known that Hermann Oberth, father of rocketry and Von Braun's senior, said in 1958. US is working on electric spacecraft which will reach the Moon within 5 years and that ETs are observing us and he even wrote a book about them.

And electric that is electrogravitational spacecraft reached the Moon much sooner than in 5 years, probably that same year.

According to Helga Morrow, they had bases on the Moon since circa 1960.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXh-tJPAVwU

Below Texas 1968. cigar shaped craft photo, possible Nazi Andromeda Gerat.

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