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The argument for pepetual motion

Started by onepower, July 08, 2023, 07:08:30 PM

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lancaIV

A good argument for perpetuum work :

I take the Citroen AMI ( ~ Opel ROCKS)  lease-plan
basic costs : 8500 €
entry : 950 €
and 20 € per month lease fee/tax

I take from the Stellantis-Group the Tesla Inc.(officially not owned by Stellantis is there by german law-view,through CO2-negotiation a type of "Beherrschungsvertrag",with responsibility/dependence),formerly Tesla Motors Inc.,formerly AC Propulsion Inc.
the robotics R&D result named 'OPTIMUS' ,look for its weight : 74 Kg material and the market entry price preview :
20 000 US$
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Bot

We know about the fast industrial price decrease f.e. video-record player( Grundig : 50 000 DM ),DVD-/CD player,solar cell modules/panels,especially under ' open source' condition = priority date utility : + 10 years ,technical - granted !-patent +20 years + the day after reaction :

- 90% and more from market entry price !

About future low cost robotics : Boston Dynamics,now in corean ownership,their patent list and priority date observation !

Clean robots,alibaba gross selling offer : 5 €/Kg

An 'OPTIMUS'-Bot for later 5 €/Kg x 74 Kg = 370 € each humanoid unit,MAXIMUS !


We can assume that we will see in future many estatal/private  ' robot armees' ,cheaper than 'Fremdenlegion' and Wagner monthly member costs and efficiency  !


But let us take the actual condition :
950 € + 240 €= 1240 € first year AMI lease costs
Financial relativity : 1240 €/8500 € AMI basic price = 0,146


'OPTIMUS' lease plan ,first year costs :

20 000 € x 0,146 = 2920 € by 8766 hours/year =  0,33 €/hour  nonstop productivity costs !
Lower than the world-wide lowest official ' minimum income',Usbekistan : ' 159 US$/month'  !
+- 1 US$/hour .

Tesla Inc. calls itself an 'open source'-company,but 20 000 US$/74 Kg is a ' closed source' 270 US$/Kg price philosophy !
Price/costs/worth comparison for transformated material :
Home depot heat pump,ic-genset,Renault KWID,TATA-F.I.A.T. Nano as motoric and fine mechanical mass production hardware : ≤ 10 €/Kg market price .

Let us estimate the preview 270 US$/Kg - at first-  to 50 US$/Kg 'OPTIMUS' hardware price :

74 Kg x 50 US$ /Kg = 3700 US$ per unit ( gross selling discount ?)

50/270 x 0,33 € actual -first year- nonstop productivity costs : 0,1852 x 0,33 € =
' open source' -first year- 0,061 € ( 6,1 cents !) per hour nonstop productivity costs !
By 25 US$/Kg the comercial per hour benchmark becomes :
near 3 cents/hour worker=robot=operator costs   !



A global german,corean(south),japanese and U.S.A industrial robotics patent review :

2030 is the closed/open source Kipp-point .

Agenda 2010 ,1€ job

Agenda 2030, ≤ 0,1€ job Industrie/-Service Gesellschaft,global

A.I. = Physiology

          Mensch-Maschine Kybernetik und Robotik


Happy perpetuum life motivation wishing

OCWL

p.s.:

when by speed = 100 % the power is :  100 %
          by speed = 200 % the power  is :  800 %

is for speed doubling (rejector/reflector/concentrator/accelerator/multiplier ) 700 % power units in need ?
A.by "Hub-Kraft"-input
B.by "Zug-Kraft"-input

With-/out "Eigen-....." ,"Auto-...." )


p.s. II : ≤ 0,1 € production/transformation  costs +Telemetrics gives us

10 $/ton CO2 scrubbing,

≤1 cent/KWh thermic/mechanic-kinetic/electric power,

low cost eco-/poly-tunnel desert vertical farming with f.e. 110 ton/ha wheat gain and a 'semi-closed water cycle '- installation with 90% ( minimum ) less water need !

With Moon-/Mars exploration R&D results we can explore 100% water-/ice-/sand-/rock deserts : on/in Earth!

With known deep rock drilling mining down to 100 Km and more deep : by laser/E.M.R. beam as mill head

ramset

Over 3 billion people have no access to clean water
Or a light switch (cars etc etc?)


1st things 1st
Or we appear as callous sadists , who sentence the less fortunate to poverty and despair!


FE
Those who fear it and hide it are the number one issue !

Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

stivep

Quote from: ramset on July 13, 2023, 10:58:26 AM
Over 3 billion people have no access to clean water
Or a light switch (cars etc etc?) 1st things 1st
Or we appear as callous sadists , who sentence the less fortunate to poverty and despair! FE
Those who fear it and hide it are the number one issue !
It is very unfortunate that
-Energy can not be created nor destroyed,
-Free Energy is only the energy that is FOR FREE if not yet penalized with tax.
-Magnetic motors do not work as self powered
-Perpetual Motion and alike is an absurd according to modern science.
-humans are more concentrated on their own family  future.
-and not  many people are like Greta Tunberg( now adult)
_____________________________________________________
This is a reality of life.
The only solution to this is Energy conversion used today and that, that is not so much used yet, or not used at all.
My suggestion:
If you see no external power coming into the device that  works means it has external  energy delivered but you  do not  know  how.
If that device doesn't have it, than it doesn't work, or is using  energy stored till it comes to rest.

Some forms of energy can be not noticed by the observer as it may be :
-electromagnetic, 
-thermal, 
-naturally the result of  atmospheric  processes of energy exchange,
  like solar, wind, clouds, electrostatic and so on.

The first thing to do :
- Do not  invest and/or build the device , but look for
a possible source of an external energy  powering it and compensating the losses.

The second thing to do:
- you  are accumulating all  possible knowledge  in that given area including processes involved if they are known or
  expected  to  be employed in the given concept or product or model. etc.

The third thing to do:
collect  as much of an equipment  to measure the processes involved as you think is necessarily.
 
Conclusion:
You are never loser.
The education stays with you.
Equipment can be re-sold often with profit.
And for that money the new  project measurement devices can be acquired if neeeded.

Wesley




   

bboj

But you did go to visit Kapanadze and obviously you believed in his magical device?

kolbacict

Quote from: stivep on July 13, 2023, 12:02:03 PM
-Perpetual Motion and alike is an absurd according to modern science.
This is a reality of life.
Wesley

Perpetuum mobile is not exist. Perhaps so.
It sounds like a doctor's verdict in an incurable disease.. 
And what will be done those who gave this 15 years of their lives ?
Just die  ?  :D :)

QuoteConclusion:
You are never loser.
The education stays with you.
Equipment can be re-sold often with profit.
And for that money the new  project measurement devices can be acquired if needed.

This is not America for you. Equipment and instruments will go under the bulldozer.
Because nobody needs anything here. And your life, need not even more so.