Global Warming, unstoppable

[magkor]

Hello,

facts about the global-warming-swindle :

http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=597d0677-2a05-47b4-b34f-b84068db11f4&p=4

You're joking right? 2003? You are quoting a work from 2003? And all it says is that the topic shouldn't YET be turned over to policy makers? This is the sad propaganda of the desperate. Show me ONE paper or study that shows the scientists are politicized. You should be ashamed. The only politicization is on your side. What's more, it's PROVEN, not propaganda. We know Exxon funded the nutjobs and it's proven the Bush White House silenced scientists and altered data.

Can you say the same about the REAL climate science? No, you can't.

Patterson: show me SCIENCE, not a tirade in a newspaper. His point that solar cycles have some effect is, of course, correct, but when he dismisses CO2 as a forcing, he's making himself look like an idiot. We can conclude his "science" isn't science because he makes statements that cannot be supported from the science. He has an agenda.

Here's propaganda for you, your lying swindle revealed:

http://members.greenpeace.org/blog/exxonsecrets/2008/07/21/swindled_by_the_swindle

Ofcom ruled today on a complaint against the polemic documentary about global warming, The Great Global Warming Swindle.   

It upheld complaints by the former UK Chief Scientist, Sir David King, the IPCC and oceanographer Carl Wunsch, stating that the filmmakers had treated them unfairly, misquoted them or misled them into being interviewed.

Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIjGynF4qkE Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goDsc9IaSQ8 Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5gUd6y3zKU Part 4: look at about the 4:50 mark.

Etc.

Look at the grafics, Al Gore prooves global cooling, the vertical scale is inverse, not all people are fooled
by this :
http://www.oekologismus.de/?p=791

I don't read German, but thanks.

This Link here :
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport

Wow... this is just sad. Inhofe? Are you kidding me?

Question : how can these 0.05 ‰ outperform the 99.9  % energy-input from the sun and therefore cause
gloabl warming ?

How can you even ask such a question? When a system is in balance, what does it take to put it out of balance? This is a foolish and silly argument you're repeating.

You can only educate yourself, if you use common sense based on real scientific data.... and above all : do not believe politicians.

Please. Your whole argument is based on what GORE said. Have I mentioned Gore? Who gives a damn about Gore? Nobody. Read the science.

There is almost no sientific consensous and therefore we have to rely on facts

That is quite simply a lie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Statements_by_dissenting_organizations

With the July 2007 release of the revised statement by the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, no remaining scientific body of national or international standing is known to reject the basic findings of human influence on recent climate.[57]

All you have shown by repeating the lie that consensus dies not exist is that you don't understand what the term "consensus"  means in the scientific arena. Hint: it does not mean 100% agreement. (There are always liars, poor scientists, and even a few who really disagree.)

http://vagabondscholar.blogspot.com/2007/04/false-equivalencies.html

http://www.livescience.com/environment/070716_gw_notwrong.html

http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/bush-global-warming-47121017

http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5782#comment-form

I hope we can finish this useless discussion. I do.

Don't respond. That will finish it. As your case has no merit in the scientific literature, that would be a good idea.

http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/

As natural observations make this an open-and-shut case, all the more so.

Cheers

[drspark]

Hello People

First the real then the real crazy:

Less SunSpots = Less Earth Heat
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/30sep_blankyear.htm
=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum

Tropical Tree Cuts = Carbon Nut$
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation
=
http://www.chicagoclimatex.com/

Cant BUY our way out of a NATURAL cycle, although it does sound nice
for the traders, not the suckers. Just like any media/market driven con-sept.
NO bailout for Mother Nature!

CO2 a fuel??? (water shift react CO2 into methane - propane with plasma)
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200417/000020041704A0600519.php
Science Links Japan | A Study on the Ionization of CO2 and Discharge Conditions in a Magnetically Supported Glow-discharge
OR
http://cc.pubco.net/www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html AlgaeOil-BioMass
OR.... wind&$olar lol........

Add device to engine that uses waist calories to gasify kerosene(clean)
into light gasses and burn them... (again water shift reaction)

Dave

[magkor]

Hello People

First the real then the real crazy:

Less SunSpots = Less Earth Heat
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/30sep_blankyear.htm
=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum

Tropical Tree Cuts = Carbon Nut$
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation
=
http://www.chicagoclimatex.com/

Cant BUY our way out of a NATURAL cycle, although it does sound nice
for the traders, not the suckers. Just like any media/market driven con-sept.
NO bailout for Mother Nature!

CO2 a fuel??? (water shift react CO2 into methane - propane with plasma)
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200417/000020041704A0600519.php
Science Links Japan | A Study on the Ionization of CO2 and Discharge Conditions in a Magnetically Supported Glow-discharge
OR
http://cc.pubco.net/www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html AlgaeOil-BioMass
OR.... wind&$olar lol........

Add device to engine that uses waist calories to gasify kerosene(clean)
into light gasses and burn them... (again water shift reaction)

Dave

The world apparently has gone insane. No matter how much fact, how much science, how much observable reality I show you, all you can come back with is illogical, ridiculous jabber.

We are in deep trouble when people have lost the ability to think coherently.

And no wonder. Look at the education level:  "waist" calories?

Criminy...

[exnihiloest]

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Every major point in Global Warming Swindle has been shown to be lies and distortions. Literally.
...

It's false.
Study the scientific papers from physicists (not these from climatologists who don't know much about thermodynamics).

CO2 increases AFTER warming :
http://fr.arxiv.org/abs/0707.1276
http://fr.arxiv.org/abs/0707.1161

"The inescapable conclusion is that human contribution is not significant and that
observed increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases make only a
negligible contribution to climate warming":
http://www.physorg.com/news116996704.html

About lies, see this concerning the alleged slow-down of Gulf Stream:
"the ocean current data, that uncertainty was huge - casting severe doubt on the reality of any change. Worse still, the NOC team had made a basic mistake in their sums, making their data seem more precise than they were."
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=2&subID=1510

Today, there is a global cooling :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-516969/Global-Cooling-Amazing...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/04/rss-satellite-data-for-jan08-2n...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7574603.stm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-516969/Global-Cooling-Amazing...

There is also a "global warming" on Mars, will you accuse CO2 and the human kind ? :-)
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

The global warming by CO2 is now a question of faith, a new religion with the gurus of the IPCC and ecologist believers supporting them by ideology, not a scientific fact.

The main cause of climate variations is probably... the sun!
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Global-Warming-Partly-Sun-039-s-Fault-90458.shtml

[b0rg13]

maybe we could pay billions in tax , and it will go away .....WeEeEeEeeeeeeeee!!!!

...k whats the next major crises,well just tax that too .