Using Magnetic Procession

[george_roanoke]

Here is what I see:

  Magnetic Force - which can generate Torque/Inertia Force ? which can be continued by Oscillations/Wave Patterns ? which can be Designed/Engineered Mechanically.

      -     -       -
    ---   ---    ---
  ----- ----- -----  <-smallmagnets stacked in wave pattern onthis side
-------------------
   ________________   
   ________________    <---------track
         
     --------------------
        ----- ----- -----         
         ---    ---   ---  <-- smallmagnets stacked on this side
           -      -      -

[Charlie_V]

George, does the steel ball only roll one way or does it roll both?  By this I mean if you place the ball at the right end of the track, will it roll right to left; if you place it on the left side, will it roll left to right?

[george_roanoke]

I thought it was directional at first, but it seemed to be just an unleveled surface error.  Works in either direction (which could be a good thing incase there?s a need to reverse the direction in some application).  Directional movement has been sustained by the strength of the forces (magnetic, inertia, gravity) acting on an object and adequate mechanical design.  As in these three cases:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pmsu9NbLxGk 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kCr3lOhMJCg http://kundelmotor.com/pages/kundel_motor_proto1.html

Once I get enough (and better) magnets, I?ll try a complete rotation with the method discussed here.  Sort of like this design - http://youtube.com/watch?v=pmsu9NbLxGk  (which, by the way, should keep going if he spiraled the path up and let the ball drop down a ramp to the start point before it reaches the last set of magnets?like the smot.) 
Trying a wave pattern on the Calloway wheel type may be the easiest though.

[dean_mcgowan]

really like that kundel motor thingamy .. got loads of promise .. some really good posts in this thread.

Keep up the good work

[george_roanoke]

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Here is what I see:  Magnetic Force - which can generate Torque/Inertia Force ? which can be continued by Oscillations/Wave Patterns ? which can be Designed/Engineered Mechanically.)


  Wow!  As far as the mechanical design, they could be as versatile as the creatures that inhabit the earth.  All creatures (I can?t think of any that don?t) on earth move or propel in some sort of oscillating\alternating pattern---like the way I described earlier when comparing the way we walk to the way a steel ball can be propelled using oscillating magnetic fields.  Some creatures use two legs, some use four, some eight, etc.  Some slither in a wave pattern, fish oscillate back and forth to propel themselves through the water, and birds oscillate with their wings.

  Through studying the oscillating mechanical procession of earths creatures (and how the pull of gravity and the forces of inertia play in their movements), perhaps this will help unlock keys insights as to the way we can design mechanisms that work on these principles.

  For example, one key insight is that I can?t think of any animal that walks with one leg.  This would be difficult.  Instead most creatures who walk alternate between legs.  So likewise when we try to design a motor based on these principles with one rotating or oscillating arm (?leg?), it?s just as difficult.  Instead, more than one rotator or oscillator can be used to help the other complete its cycle and keep going.  That?s how a bicycle wheel is turned.  One leg pushes for half a turn, than the other pushes to help complete a full rotation of the peddles.  Imagine trying to peddle with one leg.  Think about this in relation to any design your attemping that uses the previously mentioned concepts.
  I really would like to hear your thoughts and ideas about this at some point.  After all, as far as mechanical principles, what?s a better teacher than natures design.

By the way, there was this office desk toy I had when I was younger.  It was a three armed rotor that went back and forth on a track, which inclined toward the center (wave pattern again  ).  The only thing driving it was gravity and inertia, no battery or magnets.  Can?t say how long it runs for, it was always going unless I stopped it. (Course it was starting to wear down, but was working.)   I?ve been try to locate one or at least find out what the name of it was.  If anyone has any info could you please post it.  Thanks in advance for any effort.  Here is a picture of it.