Lifters are worthless

[Light]

Hard to say for sure, but some other tests showing like it’s reactionless motion. However in this particular case stator can rotate too; it means it still reactive interaction.
And besides, there’s no contacts, no brushes, just electrostatic induction.
Hope we’ll find the way to make it fly :)…
Thanks

[flathunter]

Making it fly would be great )))

But I'd love just to understand it first, so that the force could be used more efficiently perhaps.  Has anyone tried any other variations of the motor and come to different conclusions as to the nature of this force??  Has anyone tested its strength using a different dielectric than air?  Has anyone tried permanent magnets to increase the magnetic field near the dielectric (something I did try in a half-assed way, but to seemingly no effect)....

Also, why was the force reduced when Naudin altered the shape of his capacitor plates

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/pftm2ind.htm

Doesnt seem to be an EM induction effect.  So...whats the received wisdom on overunity.com?  Always a pleasure to hear other theories   

[TinselKoala]

I think JLN's conclusion is wrong, or at least not supported by his data from the modified motor. The high current and the shape of the plates, with their sharp edges, indicate that much power is being lost to leakage and not being delivered to the rotor, for whatever thrust mechanism to use.
I don't think that electrostatic induction ( a somewhat different phenomenon than EM induction, flathunter ) has yet been ruled out. Poynting vector thrust has been postulated to occur in other situations also, but may not have been confirmed.
If it is possible, then reactionless drives, and hence free energy machines, may indeed be possible too.

[infringer]

Oddly,

I have seen them talk about IONIC space travel... Learn me why NASA is developing this very technology for ionic space flight?

So if this is IONIC it should in theory work in space as well as I have seen claims that the space flight would work!

Secondly it is not stupid to develop this tech. How foolish to even say such a thing.

It is technology like this that may be used once the golden goose of energy generation is figured out OU is possible everyone knows it!
And yes someone will make good on this claim.

Let us not think with our primitive minds.

-infringer-

[flathunter]

Sorry about the EM/electrostatic muddle...my bad

but if this were electrostatic induction, we would expect it to work better with the capacitor plates curved round the shape of the rotor, as J L Naudin tested in the above link.  Instead, he got much less power.  I got the same result when i tried curving my plates inward (using bog roll and foil).  Surely this makes it unlikely that charge redistribution is the culprit behind this strange force.