Lifters are worthless

[maxwellsdemon]

Show me a lifter that can lift its own power supply.

The JLN site says they can lift their own weight plus a payload, which is not true- "their own weight" includes the stationary
part sitting on the table, which probably weighs hundreds of times what the delicate foil-and-balsa flying part weighs.

I don't think a self-contained version is even in the realm of plausibility. So I honestly can't see why people care about these things.

They are a terribly inefficient use of energy compared to, say, an electric helicopter.

They also are not "antigravity" of any sort, so they aren't even that interesting from a pure science POV.
They are kind of cool toys if you are bored and have access to a high voltage power supply. But that's the extent of it.

[acp]

Maxwell you devil....... 

[huhh]

Show me a lifter that can lift its own power supply.

uhh OK.  Do I get a prize? hee hee. lol

http://jnaudin.free.fr/
There you go, a lifter lifting itself and it's power supply.
which i believe uses high powered batteries. Has pics and videos.

But yeah,
lifters are useless, and would obviously just be made for fun.
Unless you had a ka-trillion ka-zillion volts maybe you could even fly on it without electrocuting yourself to bad. lol

and yeah, lifters are Not anti-gravity... as I have seen on a tv show. which had borrowed an expensive gravity measuring machine, which didn't messure nothing at all when the lifter was right on it.

and lifters lift by Air Thrust, not anti-gravity.. as also on that tv show, they placed a lifter inside an air tight container, and without Air, it failed the lift-off. etc: it did not move at all..nothing..
So anti-gravity = No. The End.

[CTG Labs]

Lifters don't work in a vacuum, so they are not anti-gravity, they clearly need the "air" to work which makes them similar to ion engines.


D.

[Elvis Oswald]

Do you have a link to some evidence that they won't work in a vacuum?