Magnet-motor - another design

[barbosi]

Any similarities with the picture?
Now remains the "simple" job to convert the design from rotor's coils to perm mag (using iron or anything you'd like)

[Low-Q]

What kind of motor is that? A normal energy comsuming electro motor?

Anyway, with my design I hoped to "rectify" the magnetforces by supplying stabilizing iron to each outer magnets too. Otherwise the rotor iron would be magnitized by these, and then the rotor will turn both ways with same force = not working.
I'll keep dreaming

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[Gregory]

What kind of motor is that? A normal energy comsuming electro motor?

Anyway, with my design I hoped to "rectify" the magnetforces by supplying stabilizing iron to each outer magnets too. Otherwise the rotor iron would be magnitized by these, and then the rotor will turn both ways with same force = not working.
I'll keep dreaming

Sorry I had no time to look back quickly... Yes, this is one thing, and there are more...

First, I think there is a big problem with the drawing as it shows the poles wrongly.
The fixed multipole magnet is the piece which is magnetize the iron rotor, right? And, a magnetic pole when placed near to a piece of iron will induce an opposite pole in the iron, right? North induces south, south induces north. Now check your drawing with the rotor...  Seems to be incorrect for me.

Second, when the multipole magnet attracts the iron rotor, it shares its field at some extent, and want to keep the iron rotor in position, so you will need to do more work on the rotor to move it when you use the multipole magnet than when you don't use...

Third, the rotor will act as a magnetic flux conductor (and attractor), and the stator magnets will also affect it as you mentioned. When you prevent the stator magnets to affect the iron rotor, then there will be no force to operate it. And when you do not prevent them, they will also try to attract the rotor (if it isn't fully saturated), to set a stationary magnetic field and keep it in position. But changes are the things what can drive a motor...

On any way I don't think it can turn even just a half turn without a stop.
I think this design will not work, but the same time I like it! As it is different than the "old-style dreams". End of analysis... 

[JackH]

Hello All.

Sorry, but I tryed this thing once.  Almost the same design.  It would get stuck between poles.   And the Magnetic Iron really takes the punch out of it.

But do not let me discurage you, it may work for you.

Later,,,,,,JackH

[Low-Q]

I have done some changes, and used FEMM to analyze the magnetic lines as the rotor spins - now with only two poles...

I'll keep deraming
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2186.0.html

Br.

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