Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[Peterae]

I have seen some stuff with a newman motor, a winding normally producing 5v AC when shorted at maximum flux then released shortly after with an ssr give enough of a kick to trigger a neon to discharge.

[Peterae]

I think the trouble with Mike is that he has shown us 3 builds, the one in the video is the known worker, but it is different to the other 2, not only is it reversed but the wiring layout is in a different direction ie the proto board is on opposite side, now ive been freezing the video at various places, i can trace the yellow it sticks out to Trig - and i am pretty sure ive got the Trig + going to the right place, but Main+ - seems interchanged, altho it is very difficult to see clearly.
If you look the green lead bottom right is blacker than the red lead botom left, now goto the strip ,the blacker of the 2 main coil crocks i would say is the left 1 of the main winding, which mean the order on the video is from left to right Tri - , main +, tri +, main-. Its impossible to be sure, from a technical point of view would that work.

[dingbat]

For L2 to contribute, it must be a higher voltage than L3 (which it supposedly was in Mike's case)  If there is any requirement on the coils, that would be one of them.  I think L2 must have more turns than L3 if it is designed to contribute to the charging.

I have been curious about the phasing of the coils for a long time.  I hope someone figures it out.

[MeggerMan]

Try Owon colour LCD digital storage scope EDU5022.
I have ordered a scope from Owon directly (model PDS6062T), you can get them on ebay but there is no warantee or tech support and its the same price as directly from the manfacturer.
Watch the PC scopes as some have limited input voltage protection, the better scopes can take up to 400v and some hight still.

Rob

[SPP-48]

Hi Guys

Well? another exciting evening playing with the motor and oscilloscope.
I got the scope shots around the right way this time.

Also, I thought of taking readings without the battery powering the MBC (Mike-Bedini-Cole)motor, as it could have some misleading effect. I set up a small DC motor with a belt drive onto the flywheel. I powered the small dc motor with a 5.2v power supply (from a PC), which got the MBC motor spinning quite briskly.

I also reconnected the hall IC and SSR (not the Crouzet- has not arrived yet) as per Mikes diagram.

Most of the maximum voltage readings on the scope readout are 22.4v because that's the scope?s limit.

In the last pic the small separate drive motor was disconnected from the flywheel and the motor run with 2 AA rechargeables at 2.6V. The scope probes were connected to CAP Negative and between the SSR and D2 (as per Mike?s diagram).

Any knowledgeable advice and comments would be greatly appreciated.

I will also be trying Dingbat's suggestion about adding resistance to L3, and Darren's regarding connecting D2 and SSR to the bottom of L3 to see what happens.

Cheers

Sam