Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[z_p_e]

Peter,

It doesn't appear the same, no.

Here's what I sketched up while I was comparing the two. Sorry for the mess, this wasn't meant to be published. Not sure if it will make any sense, but...

Darren

[z_p_e]

Your idea for auto adjustment of the base current sounds good!

Dave,

I would encourage you to try first a high gain Q as I suggested. This would be the simplest, cleanest, and probably the best solution if it works. Just replace Q1 with a 2N5210 or MPS8099 or eq.

Keep increasing Rb until the motor won't start, then back it off say 20%. See what value you end up with.

Darren

[Peterae]

Hi Darren
LOL very similar to what i sketched, apart from i had 3 wires the side you have put no wires or windings. SSR red ,M+ wire and M- wire.But im sure you found those.
Day off tommorow, so i can get some washers, balance my rotor, and have a play and who knows i might connect up the SSR.

Peter

[z_p_e]

Good stuff Peter.

Looking forward to seeing some waveforms, once you beg borrow, steal, or even buy a scope

btw, I don't think it's so necessary to have a digital scope. It's great for easy transfer to the pc etc, and for a little better analysis, but you can do a lot with an analog scope.

I think I'm going to hold off on a DSO until the prices come down to reality. So for now, I'd prefer to spend the $500 or even $1000 on a good digital SLR and just take snaps of my scope.

Darren

[Peterae]

Hi Darren
Yer im desperate for a scope, the mrs cant justify me buying a nice one
but i can