Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

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All components are the same except for the added parts a hall IC and a ss relay and also third winding.

Leads me to beleive now ther is no extra diode in the circuit.

Since he useed the gen coil to start up the cap charge, then the switching charged the capacitor faster. and before running the thing says he switched the cap charge back to the battery at the proper time, thus reducing the current use untill he got the effect he found in wich the timing is then used strictly on the cap. This tells me he switched the cap out of the main curcit until the proper time.

in other words was charging the cap and switching it into the curcit at the right time to use cap charge to run circuit, instead of battery.
This means the gen coil is directly conected to the rectifyer. and the switch to curcit is such that the curcit is not on at all times with the switch engaged. In other words has it switched to normal onn switching it off saving current flow, posibly causeing and using the oscilations to further enhance charging Remeber what happens in one coil will transformer to the other.

Note I am Roystermule on the other form.
I have dumped all ideas diagrams etc on this mess and now starting over. 

I will note that droping the bias by bring the curcit to positive creates an so far unstable oscilation when the triger curent transistor is brought to the right currrent leval. Such could be involved in this. So far not sure.

I have also noticed that the voltage levals can cause the circit to oscilate. It is voltage dependent and coil related.
Well so far this stuf is fun so I will continue.

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An add on I forgot. Were in the curcit can the generated current on the main coil, triger coil keep the sytem working?

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Ok looking over the original circuit thetriger transistor is used to create the higher charging effect by removing the diode and reversing the triger coil. Creates a switch that will trun off and on shorting the main coil during generator mode.  Note one must reverse the trigger coil to get it to switch like this.  Adjust the resistor to your coil will also have to be done. One could run the device with a secondary drive with a scope across the main to get this switching to be most effective with out any power conecter to curcit. 
Note this makes atthe emmeter of the transistor the turn on of due to when it flows it shorts the main coil. An interesting tranformer effect to cause with the generated current to sped up the charge of the curcit.

Note the diode should be removed from the curcit. Hence were the diode comes from.

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I think I understand but how about a schematic to be sure?

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So far I am back to the original Bendini circuit without rectifyer conected, and no power trying to figure out wer the gen coil can go in a common emiter pnp curcit driven by the motor spining and the magnetic induction that can operate the common pnp amp. Were would the best place be to stick in the coil, or to create a switching to give the charge rate Mike shows in the vidio.

So far I am leaning that he put the coil on the pnp emiter parallel with the triger coil. Such would asist in the drive pulse.

It can also be switched with the resistor in the pnp collecter to npn. Still looking at how the set up will charge the cap the fastest.

Note something Mike asked as well as following other staments by him such as was how fast does the cap charge free handing it to six volts.


Well it make reason when I look at the vidio and see one side of the switch conected to battery.
I am now realy woundering about them little dots about the line in one scope shot. I am hoping folks do figure this thing out and there is not a hp transmiter around.
Just a note it is the three coils that can cause enough current to charge the cap. If these can not do it were is that charge coming from?
Ahh I am going twords mistake as in meter charging ( note charge rate does not happen until spin) But have seen some strange damage to digital meter myself; or one of them coils is picking up current from somewere.