Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

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LOL
Now we get to the strange stuff. Leave out the diode in the posting. Look at were I put the cap.

Flyback current will drain both sides of it to a positive state.

Not excactly what I excpected and will have to give an electron vacume some time to sink in to see if it could be causing something in this curcit to aid capacitor charge.

To make sure folks understand the electrons are pulled out of both sides of a  capacitor. Both plate will attract free electrons creating curent twords both plates.

Z_P_E are you replicating or experminting with the curcit?  Yea I might confuse some folks. Reality is that whole vidio, Mikes scematic etc is confusing.  Know of any one that has got it to work yet?   The junction stuff on the fly back easly will confuse most folks.  The energy has to come from some were, and the charge rate shown in the vidio with out a battery is almost unbelivable. Something has to cause that.

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Z_P_E are you replicating or experminting with the curcit?  Yea I might confuse some folks. Reality is that whole vidio, Mikes scematic etc is confusing.  Know of any one that has got it to work yet?   The junction stuff on the fly back easly will confuse most folks.  The energy has to come from some were, and the charge rate shown in the vidio with out a battery is almost unbelivable. Something has to cause that.

Yes, I've been working with a simulation model thus far. I have ordered #28 wire as I only have #30 at the moment.

Several people have got the window motor to work on a battery, and even a short period on a capacitor. Is that what you mean by "working"? If not, then I don't believe anyone has a self-runner yet, no.

I agree with you, the charge rate seems phenomenal. In my tests, it is roughly equivalent to charging the cap directly from a 6V battery through a 600 Ohm resistor or so.

Maybe his cap is/was bad? But he indicated that with his new cap it is also working, so the bad cap theory may not wash either.

John has hinted that maybe Mike's capacitor is "conditioned". Well, I wonder if that would involve hitting the cap repeatedly with 100+V spikes? Someone should ask John if this would do anything strange to these caps; he has a lot of experience in charging caps with bemf.

Darren

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Some food for thought.

A 47000uF cap being charged with a 7V supply through a 500 Ohm resistor, in comparison to the voltage vs. time plot taken right from the video.

Darren

[Peterae]

Hi Darren
thats interesting, thats 14ma to charge the cap,so with my motor drawing about 20ma + supplying 14ma to charge the cap, thats 70% more energy than is being used by the motor, so once this excess energy charges the cap to 7 volts where does the excess go after that?
Or does it mean that his machine is OU only below and upto 7volts where it then neutralizes any excess energy, also does this mean it is more OU at 6 volts than at 7 volts.
Your charge graph from the film, appears to show the lower the voltage is steeper , so therefore i may be correct that it appears more OU at 4 volts than at 7.

Food for thought.
Peter